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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 11 Nov 20 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Labour have a rich history in financial mismanagement, whilst in power, its nothing to do with Covid. They have been going down the plughole for years.
The three main people, Council Leader, Finance Officer and Chief Excutive have all resigned and walked away, doubtless awarding themselves a hefty pay offs and gold plated pensions.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Nov 20 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Looking around me in Croydon it has been locked down for over 6 months more or less.

The council has done well to maintain essential services.

But whatever political persuasion they are, they will not be collecting revenue anything like they need.

I think this must be widespread.

There is no alternative to the government making good.

And it is a type of poetic justice as they have been over-loading their responsibilities onto councils in the name of their flawed austerity policies.

How have we benefitted? Not at all over 2 trillions in debt.

Is there a vaccine for stupidity? I'd get in the queue if I were you.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Nov 2020 9.03pm)

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 11 Nov 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Looking around me in Croydon it has been locked down for over 6 months more or less.

The council has done well to maintain essential services.

But whatever political persuasion they are, they will not be collecting revenue anything like they need.

I think this must be widespread.

There is no alternative to the government making good.

And it is a type of poetic justice as they have been over-loading their responsibilities onto councils in the name of their flawed austerity policies.

How have we benefitted? Not at all over 2 trillions in debt.

They waisted all that money searching for a vacine when they should have been planting magic money trees.

Britain under Labour - broke
TfL under Labour - broke
Croydon under Labour - broke.

Who in there right mind wasted £50m on an out of town shopping centre in 2018.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Nov 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Labour have a rich history in financial mismanagement, whilst in power, its nothing to do with Covid. They have been going down the plughole for years.
The three main people, Council Leader, Finance Officer and Chief Excutive have all resigned and walked away, doubtless awarding themselves a hefty pay offs and gold plated pensions.

Firstly these corrupt scumbags shouldn't ever be allowed to hold Public office again & secondly there should be a audit as to where the money has gone exactly?
Councils should only be allowed to deal with street lighting, potholes, garbage collection & the likes, but too many of these scumbags (& I include other political persuasions as well) treat being a councillor akin to running a private fiefdom.

 


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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 11 Nov 20 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

For many years, there have been too many clowns in the circus we call the public sector. They should be held to account for their acts of gross financial mismanagement not allowed to run away with gold plated pensions.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Nov 20 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Firstly these corrupt scumbags shouldn't ever be allowed to hold Public office again & secondly there should be a audit as to where the money has gone exactly?
Councils should only be allowed to deal with street lighting, potholes, garbage collection & the likes, but too many of these scumbags (& I include other political persuasions as well) treat being a councillor akin to running a private fiefdom.

Not often I agree with you Jim

Years ago I worked with every Local Authority in England. They were incredibly mixed in their abilities. The worst by far were the Authorities that had been under the same party leadership for prolonged periods.

Whilst sometimes I have no choice, I am always extremely cautious about hiring people from Local Authorities. They tend to hire weak people and then not manage underperformance properly. Sorry to anyone reading this that works for a Council, you are obviously the exception.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Nov 20 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Not often I agree with you Jim

Years ago I worked with every Local Authority in England. They were incredibly mixed in their abilities. The worst by far were the Authorities that had been under the same party leadership for prolonged periods.

Whilst sometimes I have no choice, I am always extremely cautious about hiring people from Local Authorities. They tend to hire weak people and then not manage underperformance properly. Sorry to anyone reading this that works for a Council, you are obviously the exception.

On this, you are 100% correct.

 

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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 11 Nov 20 10.33pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

My dealings with local authorities is extremely poor.

The commercial realities are combated with jealousy and over zealous attitudes.

They forget that it is private individuals and entrepreneurs who pay their salaries. Policies, procedures, red tape, middle management, cosy pensions, arrogance and selfishness are all there.

Where do people think the money comes from; it is incredulous.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Nov 20 10.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

My dealings with local authorities is extremely poor.

The commercial realities are combated with jealousy and over zealous attitudes.

They forget that it is private individuals and entrepreneurs who pay their salaries. Policies, procedures, red tape, middle management, cosy pensions, arrogance and selfishness are all there.

Where do people think the money comes from; it is incredulous.

They letting you out again now then? How was that for you and did it work?

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Nov 20 10.53pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I fully agree with most of the views on here that years of incompetence, likely corruption and individual vanity have led Croydon Council to this point.


Over on cpfc.org/BBS/ Peoples Popular Front of Penge the blames lies squarely on the " cuts " with only one or two dissenting voices pointing out the council's actual failings.

I have no idea what happens from here in terms of the future if you live in Croydon and need the services

Somehow those individuals who self enriched need to be bought to account

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 11 Nov 20 11.06pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

The council has been run by morons for 10 years.

While it is a valid argument to say Croydon is underfunded compared to other boroughs (compounded further by its size and large population) and therefore other streams of income and investment had to be found, pouring money into property building and investment might seem like a good idea but only if itís handled by people that know what theyíre doing.

Buying a failing (now failed) hotel and a low footfall semi-suburban retail car park with atrocious locational appeal and poor transport links is mental. Even worse when you enter a pandemic a few months later, and thatís just for starters.

The whole Westfield thing has ended up a disaster - but in a way, I feel a bullet has been dodged as the direction of travel is more experiential and less retail led, creating destinations that entertain and accommodate first supported by retail, rather than the 2000s Westfield model of retail first. I believe that is where the plans will end up - residential with leisure entertainment and restaurants as the focus. Stratford and Shepherds Bush are going to have interesting decisions to make the other side of this era.

Hopefully with the reality of the cap on spending and some people being hired that actually know what theyíre doing in 5 years there will start to be more of an upward trajectory rather than a stagnating one.

There is an opportunity here, but itís probably unlikely to be fully embraced.

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Nov 20 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

I fully agree with most of the views on here that years of incompetence, likely corruption and individual vanity have led Croydon Council to this point.


Over on cpfc.org/BBS/ Peoples Popular Front of Penge the blames lies squarely on the " cuts " with only one or two dissenting voices pointing out the council's actual failings.

I have no idea what happens from here in terms of the future if you live in Croydon and need the services

Somehow those individuals who self enriched need to be bought to account

Self-enrichment is a big claim. I am more inclined to cock up than conspiracy, after all this is local government. Or do you have proof?

 

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