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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 12 Nov 20 1.45am Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

And of course Gordon Brown who sold off our gold reserves on the cheap was a CON..... oh wait

I wasn"t even born back then spider, i"m just dealing with the present!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 12 Nov 20 5.35am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Not often I agree with you Jim

Years ago I worked with every Local Authority in England. They were incredibly mixed in their abilities. The worst by far were the Authorities that had been under the same party leadership for prolonged periods.

Whilst sometimes I have no choice, I am always extremely cautious about hiring people from Local Authorities. They tend to hire weak people and then not manage underperformance properly. Sorry to anyone reading this that works for a Council, you are obviously the exception.

Not just weak people. Filling up your employee numbers to suit a certain political criteria. Without wondering if they can actually do the job for the masses.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 12 Nov 20 6.04am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I wasn"t even born back then spider, i"m just dealing with the present!

Funny you were only talking a few weeks ago of how proud you are of croydon .Saying how safe it is and what a lovely atmosphere it has. I suppose you will spin this and say it's good debt that croydon has and how lucky the croydon people are. Your user name looks ridiculas lol.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 20 7.54am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Self-enrichment is a big claim. I am more inclined to cock up than conspiracy, after all this is local government. Or do you have proof?

I think some on the council had fingers in the pie.

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It's not just Croydon Council, Lewisham tried to CP the land around Millwall for a major re-development. The favoured company was an offshore pop up with zero history and unknown owners. However it was widely believed that the mayor's brother was involved. Anyway thanks to Millwall supporters and a reporter from the Guardian the whole sorry mess was exposed for what it was.

And yes the Tories are just as bad at dealing out public money to their mates.

The Lewisham council fiasco does raise one issues. How can it possibly be right that public money can be offered to a company whose owners are hidden. The rules most change we have to have transparency.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 12 Nov 20 8.06am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

So where has the brick 4 brick money all gone and why are ordinary folk scrutinised for all their tax and earnings but this is all hidden?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Nov 20 8.35am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

For many years, there have been too many clowns in the circus we call the public sector. They should be held to account for their acts of gross financial mismanagement not allowed to run away with gold plated pensions.

I spent all my career in the public sector, is it a circus? Probably. Are there too many clowns? Certainly at Senior Management level, I do believe lower down the chain get a raw deal from the media and public, as they are lumped together with Management. Gold plated pension? Certainly not me and again Senior Managers undoubtably. You would be surprised how low the average PS pension is

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 12 Nov 20 8.42am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

So where has the brick 4 brick money all gone and why are ordinary folk scrutinised for all their tax and earnings but this is all hidden?


They could make a Carry On film about this.

My favourite 'Brick by Brick' story is how they build a load of flats intended for a Government co-ownership scheme. All goes well up until the point when people have had a look around and are keen to go ahead before they realise they have not even registered to be eligble for the scheme.

Oh and the rumours are that as part of their plans to encourage people to shop locally they are planning on abolishing the hours free parking that exists in places like Coulsdon and so on. LOL. You could not make this stuff up.

To be fair to the new leader (and I have to state a personal interest in that I know her) she has put her hands up and said the fault lays with the Council itself so she does deserve some kudos for that.

 

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View WJK1960's Profile WJK1960 Flag Purley 12 Nov 20 8.50am Send a Private Message to WJK1960 Add WJK1960 as a friend

One of the major issues arising from this financial mess is the lack of scrutiny by councillors, who effectively acted as cheerleaders for those such as Tony Newman and Paul Scott. And this includes the new head of the council, Hamida Ali. The quality of councillors varies enormously, both in terms of capability and commitment to the role. Local government is now a complex operation but the councillors are often ill equipped to challenge decisions and the use of patronage by means of allowances ties them into the decisions made at the top. Quite frankly, in this era of gesture politics, they should all give back the allowances they have received in recent years. They simply haven't been up to the job.

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

I think some on the council had fingers in the pie.

[Link]

It's not just Croydon Council, Lewisham tried to CP the land around Millwall for a major re-development. The favoured company was an offshore pop up with zero history and unknown owners. However it was widely believed that the mayor's brother was involved. Anyway thanks to Millwall supporters and a reporter from the Guardian the whole sorry mess was exposed for what it was.

And yes the Tories are just as bad at dealing out public money to their mates.

The Lewisham council fiasco does raise one issues. How can it possibly be right that public money can be offered to a company whose owners are hidden. The rules most change we have to have transparency.

Local authorities are rife with corruption and back handers.

Local elections have the biggest impact on your life, but no one bothers paying attention or voting. Meanwhile we have hundreds of pages on Trump/Biden.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 20 9.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Once upon a time local businessmen joined the masons and became friends with local council officials which is how they got the plum contracts, back handers etc.

Today that still goes on and you hear stories how ethnic groups gets jobs in key council departments such as housing and then recruit and promote their friends, relatives etc until they have a power base.

Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

 


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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 12 Nov 20 9.03am Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Funny you were only talking a few weeks ago of how proud you are of croydon .Saying how safe it is and what a lovely atmosphere it has. I suppose you will spin this and say it's good debt that croydon has and how lucky the croydon people are. Your user name looks ridiculas lol.

I think he may be quite young given his comments on Gordon Brown.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of your home town. I used to be until I moved somewhere else and found out pretty much anywhere is better than Croydon.

The thing he might realise when he moves away is that you shouldn't have to even think about safety in public, it should be a given fact that you should be safe all the time without having to worry.

You spelt ridiculous incorrectly.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Nov 20 4.02pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Self-enrichment is a big claim. I am more inclined to cock up than conspiracy, after all this is local government. Or do you have proof?

There was a lot of conflict of interest going on, especially between Scott, Newman and Lacey when it came to the development schemes and BXB

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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