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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Dec 20 7.59pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

My knowledge is from 30 years ago, so may well be out-of-date.
Fuel cells need pure hydrogen, which needs to be isolated from water via electricity.
the emissions from a fuel cell is solely water. Also a normal petrol engine can be run from hydrogen (with a few tweeks) and the only emissions would be water vapour.

there are a few mechanical equations which seem enshrined in engineering 'law' for cars.

1. You must keep (unsuspended) mass to a minimum
2. Power = energy consumption (although energy merely changes form)

And engineering is fraught with compromises. Outright straight-line speed is compromised by downforce for cornering. Braking ability, etc.

Dont some london buses run on a hydrogen fuel cell

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Dec 20 7.36am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst


Dont some london buses run on a hydrogen fuel cell

There are hydrogen powered trains running too

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 20 8.15am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There are hydrogen powered trains running too

From what I read this looks more practical than cars.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 20 9.26am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

From what I read this looks more practical than cars.

Valid points. There are barriers to everything, which can be overcome.
For example, I live 8 miles from my nearest train station, which means I'd have to drive there.
Railway safety is the most stringent I've encountered. Staff regularly checked for alcohol and drugs, etc, etc.
However, the railways infastructure (although fit for purpose) isn't the ideal scenario for a modern (low carbon) transport system.
Trains are heavy and they use lots of energy.
Hydrogen looks like an answer, but it's how you generate the fuel and store it safely that are key issues to overcome.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (10 Dec 2020 9.27am)

 


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