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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jun 21 11.46pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

FWIW I think it’s a bit of an empty gesture which ran its course a long time ago, but if it keeps annoying people like you lot then I’m all for it

According to Southgate every player feels strongly they want to do this. As it is a perfectly laudable message why should they not do so? If they have passion then it is not an empty gesture. I hope they keep it up all the time people racially abuse footballers online

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Dullards are gonna be dull.

I guess you can't help it.

Yes oh shining star of wisdom.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Yes oh shining star of wisdom.

You know it.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 06 Jun 21 12.51am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Not sure how anyone can listen to this and still think their argument against it being some sort of BLM political gesture holds any water. You’re using it as cover to be racist pricks lads.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 06 Jun 21 1.21am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Not sure how anyone can listen to this and still think their argument against it being some sort of BLM political gesture holds any water. You’re using it as cover to be racist pricks lads.

You mean like people who move to Essex?

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2021 1.23am)

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 06 Jun 21 1.32am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You mean like people who move to Essex?

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2021 1.23am)

How you twist and stretch your logic to make yourself think you’re in the right is really quite something.

Must really pain you to have to watch the Euros with Gareth and a team of English players wearing the shirt and representing the flag for England and they stand for everything you don’t. Beautiful.

Edited by DanH (06 Jun 2021 1.35am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 06 Jun 21 1.35am

Originally posted by DanH

Not sure how anyone can listen to this and still think their argument against it being some sort of BLM political gesture holds any water. You’re using it as cover to be racist pricks lads.

Fair play if they do all want to. I don't think it achieves much, but they're a close knit group with several blacks players (who have been actively and repeatedly racially abused). In that situation I would very likely stick with my countrymen too and give the finger to those who actively abuse and target them.

Beyond that it would be nice to see players get more actively involved in changing communities for the better, as the likes of Rashford are doing. I'm sure some do on the quiet anyway, but they have massive financial clout and name recognition so can make a real, rather than a symbolic difference, if they direct their efforts wisely.


 

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Originally posted by DanH

How you twist and stretch your logic to make yourself think you’re in the right is really quite something.

Must really pain you to have to watch the Euros with Gareth and a team of English players wearing the shirt and representing the flag for England and they stand for everything you don’t. Beautiful.

Edited by DanH (06 Jun 2021 1.35am)

I still have 66.

However, if what Southgate says is true then yeah it's a division in perspective that is painful for me as an Englishman. However, it shouldn't really matter whether all the players agreed or disagreed, sport shouldn't be getting involved with months long political messaging.

I never looked at sport as overtly political and I regard it as genuinely disappointing that it has taken this path....Most people don't want politics with sport.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2021 1.50am)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jun 21 8.46am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I still have 66.

However, if what Southgate says is true then yeah it's a division in perspective that is painful for me as an Englishman. However, it shouldn't really matter whether all the players agreed or disagreed, sport shouldn't be getting involved with months long political messaging.

I never looked at sport as overtly political and I regard it as genuinely disappointing that it has taken this path....Most people don't want politics with sport.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2021 1.50am)

Yeh, apolitical

During the Olympics, leaders from the various city-states discussed important political and economic matters. In the ancient world, major leaders rarely met the same place at the same time. As the games approached, everyone generally agreed to an Olympic truce, a time when warfare usually ceased. Athletes and spectators were granted immunity to travel to and from the games.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Jun 21 9.12am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Not sure how anyone can listen to this and still think their argument against it being some sort of BLM political gesture holds any water. You’re using it as cover to be racist pricks lads.

Do you understand how transparent you have become?
Name calling? Again? Seriously?

It is more than an argument against the Marxist, racist, anti law BLM organization. It is about politics in football and the very idea that Black people should have positive discrimination or that they are somehow subject to genuine racism in Britain.
We are subjected to ridiculous campaigns about online abuse which any reasonable person would figure out was the cause of most of the abuse and not the solution. If you give online abusers a spotlight, they will use it. Pop psychology page one.

If Black organisations were serious about helping Black people they would cooperate with police to catch and imprison Black gangsters and encourage young Black kids to follow the right path instead of blaming everyone else for their problems. When I say everyone else, I mean White people.
And lastly, why oh why do the liberal elite, expect the average White person to care so deeply for the plight of Black people in general? Personally, I treat everyone the same, but I'm sure not going to stay awake at night worrying about Black people's issues.

What does bother me is that a sport I have followed since a child has now been polluted by all this nonsense as a direct result of our insane immigration policy and an elite group of people and their media puppets who cynically peddle and encourage all this crap for their own ends.

They just love gullible fools like you.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 Jun 2021 9.14am)

 

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Originally posted by DanH

How you twist and stretch your logic to make yourself think you’re in the right is really quite something.

Must really pain you to have to watch the Euros with Gareth and a team of English players wearing the shirt and representing the flag for England and they stand for everything you don’t. Beautiful.

Edited by DanH (06 Jun 2021 1.35am)

Are we allowed to discuss “the flag of England?” Don’t want to be accused of being a nation of flag wavers do we? Oh sorry apparently we already are

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Jun 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Booing your own players before they’re about to represent their country is f*cking moronic, yes.

..yes but its not 'my country' they are representing.

Would you boo a political act on behalf of the fishermen, or the hill farmers or the disadvantaged Linen industry ?

 


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