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View Eewires's Profile Eewires Flag Guildford 14 Dec 20 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Eewires Add Eewires as a friend

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

...and Kouyate in McArthur's? Or would that be more of the same? These two and Luka don't foul subtly. it will cost us.

Id put Jairo in for Macca. Excellent defensively but also looks to start attacks.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 15 Dec 20 9.39pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

We've played good football recently, but for me the main tactical change is less the one from 451 to 442, but rather the shift from very rigid to fairly fluid.

We defend in the classic 442 shape, but with Eze floating in off the left, Schlupp making effective runs into the centre from the right, and Mcarthur getting up in support from deep, we are harder to mark and less predictable in possession. Add in Benteke suddenly remembering how to play as a focal point and Zaha gets far more freedom, space and options. We then see attacking combinations rather than isolated individual efforts.

Roy has played precisely this way before. Swap Eze for Loftus-Cheek and this is basically the side that was in very good form over the second half of the 2017/18 season, playing much the same way.

For me the lesson here is that it's not about Roy's preferred tactics as such. It's to do with having three or four attacking players in decent form rather than relying on the one. We've rarely had that over recent years, but Hodgson can accommodate it when we do.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (15 Dec 2020 9.45pm)

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 17 Dec 20 8.41am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

We have, from our expected soak it up and counter attack tactics to being on the offensive. We took the game to West Ham and could have and should have really been 3-0 up at half time, so we are mixing it up a bit.

The second half against Spurs we dominated and should have taken the lead. So as we go into the Christmas period we will carry more of a threat. There is no denying that Tekkers is getting more space as Wilf and Eze breeze past defenders.

If that is nullified Schlupp and PVA can break into the box from deep. I am always the optimist, but even more so now...

 

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Proof, if it is needed, was the sight of Wardy legging it up the wing making the extra man and putting in some good crosses, one from which Benteke scored. Previously when we sat deep and conceded possession he hardly crossed the half way line.

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View richard shaw (og)65's Profile richard shaw (og)65 Flag my minds eye 17 Dec 20 10.41am Send a Private Message to richard shaw (og)65 Add richard shaw (og)65 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

We've played good football recently, but for me the main tactical change is less the one from 451 to 442, but rather the shift from very rigid to fairly fluid.

We defend in the classic 442 shape, but with Eze floating in off the left, Schlupp making effective runs into the centre from the right, and Mcarthur getting up in support from deep, we are harder to mark and less predictable in possession. Add in Benteke suddenly remembering how to play as a focal point and Zaha gets far more freedom, space and options. We then see attacking combinations rather than isolated individual efforts.

Roy has played precisely this way before. Swap Eze for Loftus-Cheek and this is basically the side that was in very good form over the second half of the 2017/18 season, playing much the same way.

For me the lesson here is that it's not about Roy's preferred tactics as such. It's to do with having three or four attacking players in decent form rather than relying on the one. We've rarely had that over recent years, but Hodgson can accommodate it when we do.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (15 Dec 2020 9.45pm)

Spot on Mr the bigtoepunt , the other thing is we've changed to a more passing game , playing great little triangles to work the ball forward and those passes are sticking , where in the past they didn't seem to and wed resort to the "chip into the channel" ball

 


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