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Originally posted by BelfastEagle

No sign of this Ferguson character then ?

Must be some doubt as to whether he will ever play again.

Recovered from his knee injury and then picked up a serious thigh strain when almost fully fit. Itís unbelievable the amount of training ground injuries we have.

 

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Originally posted by doombear


I think Hodgson said Ferguson was doing some form of training now, so there may be hope, yet.

Looks like hes another Wickham, always injured......collect 60k a week dont pass go!!

 

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 12 Jul 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Met back up with the squad at Georgeís Park, seen in the pictures. I feel we have no other option but to renew Clyne and Ward given the rb situation.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Jul 21 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Yes, there is Buy or Loan a Better one, Simples

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 12 Jul 21 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Kelly can be cover, Mitchell is two footed he could play there, Reece Hannam can play LB, all better options than Clyne or Ward, Imray is an option as well

 

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 12 Jul 21 9.28pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

I personally donít think it is wise to go into the new season with an inexperienced manager with

Mitchell
Hannam
Kelly
And Imray as your fullbacks

 

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Kelly can be cover, Mitchell is two footed he could play there, Reece Hannam can play LB, all better options than Clyne or Ward, Imray is an option as well

Iíd say neither are better options. Both experienced, reliable proís in a position where we are desperately short. Would be totally bonkers to let both go without the offer of a new contract.

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 29 Jul 21 4.46am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Clyne appears to fit the PV model with full backs playing as quasi wing backs - though I'm a touch dubious how this pans out when we face strong PL opposition - is he our best option at RB? Starting in preseason seems to confirm his favouritism.

No new contract signed yet. Should we go for him? He's not exactly young - Ward was his replacement all those years back iirc.

Would he sign a short term contract? That I imagine is the sticking point right now. Having both him and Ward on longer deals feels wrong with Ferguson on the blocks though arguably Ward can be deemed LB cover - he did briefly oust PvA there.

(I'm ignoring Kelly out wider unless in extremis - he is a CB really and more so under the PV model)

Edited by Omph (29 Jul 2021 4.48am)

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 29 Jul 21 4.58am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I get the feeling we will never see Ferguson actually play for us. A punt that didnít work out unfortunately

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 29 Jul 21 5.33am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

No sign of this Ferguson character then ?

Must be some doubt as to whether he will ever play again.

I think this is exactly the issue. With surgery these days, Ferguson will probably recover and may well play again. The question is, after two years out of the game due to serious joint injuries will he ever be the player he was? Those sorts of knocks take their toll. It's not just getting to the point where you can play again, but whether you can return to being the player you once were.

I hope Ferguson can do it but it's far from guaranteed and we have to be prudent and mitigate the risk that he won't come back. Clyne and Ward are not that old (34 is the new 2 and both are adequate cover for the next two seasons if Ferguson doesn't make it. If Ferguson does make it back (more likely next season than this), then Ward or Clyne signed to a contract will have some transfer value if we want or need to move either on.

Wickham is actually a good case study. He did get over his injuries and play again last season. But he clearly wasn't the player he was before the injuries and in the end, though fit, didn't even make an impact in the Championship. I fear the same thing might happen with Ferguson.

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 29 Jul 21 5.33am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Hope you're wrong but given he's been out for a year or more it seems rational to ignore him this season. It will take a time to get up to speed and build confidence and football fitness.

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I get the feeling we will never see Ferguson actually play for us. A punt that didnít work out unfortunately

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 29 Jul 21 7.29am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

The problem with Clyne is he was on £80,769 a week last year and he is 30 now, i doubt he would get more than 35k if given a two year deal, better to give him 6 months at 50k and see if Ferguson recovers

 

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