I think what is more to the point is they are anti anything and everything that we do. It’s real kids out the pram stuff and I really hope their current attitude backfires on them.

I'm half inclined to agree to your 'better to have no deal' perspective now really as at least in that situation we're truly the masters of our own destiny, rather than one foot in, and one foot out or rushed (somehow!)lopsided and limiting agreements.

We've certainly allows them to do a number on us with regard to UK business trading in Europe though. Duty due to technicalities about origin of items and the like, which should have been ironed out in the agreement. Some UK businesses are going to be dead in the water and distinctly noncompetitive as result. Hopefully something can be done about this as it was perfectly avoidable if the right agreement was in place.

I'm half inclined to agree to your 'better to have no deal' perspective now really as at least in that situation we're truly the masters of our own destiny, rather than one foot in, and one foot out or rushed (somehow!)lopsided and limiting agreements.

The EU is protectionist and anti-competitive. This is frankly not news.

In our "Post EU world" (as per this topic, as I'm keen I don't find myself re-hashing the same old arguments in the Brexit thread), I want us (as a nation) to cut our reliance on EU imports to the very very minimum, and indeed push exports to emerging markets as much as possible.

The EU are not our "neighbours and friends", or whatever the useless platitudes our politicians come out with. They are our economic rivals. They are willing to threaten access to food (NI), medicines (as we see now) and any market where we take a global lead (Tobin tax), including our major exports (see any single market for services in the EU?).

We must source our imports from elsewhere and begin to rebalance our trade deficit with the EU. Money talks. We spend about £90bn more in the EU than they spend here. Take that custom elsewhere, and start doing it today. Remove as much dependence on food, energy (as we'll see in 5 years) and nationally-critical infrastructure from the EU economy. They must never be allowed to hold us ransom and pursue an agenda against our interests (and trust me, they will if they can).

I have been, and remain a keen "no deal" advocate: I never wanted a deal with the EU, because no deal with the EU is worth the tentacles of control that slither in via treaty obligations. I still hold out hope that we renege on the treaty (or indeed the EU parliament refuse to ratify it). I'm also a realist however: we can achieve much the same approach by cutting the economic bonds these control freaks use to provide their levers of control.

Why?

I have to admit, I was rather sceptical about the amount of sheckles we would all be rolling in after our eu exit, but true to his word, boris has delivered again- I have never had so much extra lolly in my wallet since the start of the year, thank you boris,jacob and nigel ,you delivered yet again!