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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 23 11.33pm |
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I am watching the BBC series on the life of Julius Caesar. It’s presented by several historians with dramatic support. It’s very good and presents a lot of information that’s new to me. It can be found on iPlayer and I thoroughly recommend it. Why mention it here? The parallels with Trump are uncanny and very concerning. Give it a go.
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| eaglesdare 01 Dec 23 11.38pm |
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I see there's another mystery illness going on in china. Right on que for the US election postal votes .....
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Teddy Eagle  01 Dec 23 11.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am watching the BBC series on the life of Julius Caesar. It’s presented by several historians with dramatic support. It’s very good and presents a lot of information that’s new to me. It can be found on iPlayer and I thoroughly recommend it. Why mention it here? The parallels with Trump are uncanny and very concerning. Give it a go. Yes. when he's responsible for an invasion of Britain and occupation for three hundred years the parallels will be astounding.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Dec 23 9.03am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes. when he's responsible for an invasion of Britain and occupation for three hundred years the parallels will be astounding. I didn’t suggest it was an identical set of circumstances! Only that there are parallels. Mostly involving the tactics and thinking. Trump was tutored by Roy Cohn and I am now wondering if Cohn studied Caesar. Do watch it. You will find it thought provoking. It seems others have had these thoughts in the past, well before Trump’s final stand on Jan 6th.
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| georgenorman 02 Dec 23 11.21am |
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Wisbelch's visceral hatred of Trump is such that you wonder whether Trump had a previous job as a gas safety inspector.
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 02 Dec 23 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I see there's another mystery illness going on in china. Right on que for the US election postal votes ..... Oh do leave off! As if they give that much of a s***e to roll out a novel Corona virus. Mental.
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 02 Dec 23 2.52pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am watching the BBC series on the life of Julius Caesar. It’s presented by several historians with dramatic support. It’s very good and presents a lot of information that’s new to me. It can be found on iPlayer and I thoroughly recommend it. Why mention it here? The parallels with Trump are uncanny and very concerning. Give it a go. Would be interested in watching this. There’s also a lot of parallels with Trump and Hitler. But people on here won’t want to see if hear that.
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 02 Dec 23 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Oh boy, that's would require a very long post to answer properly: I'll be as brief as possible. I believe in natural law and if someone believes in the natural state of man then you come to understand that the current ruling elites cannot stand. I believe in distributed systems of power as being far better for humans than centralised power. Essentially I agree with Russell Brand that the left should be free to form their own nation and the right theirs. Forcing one to live under the heel of the other is where the radicalism exists. The oppotunity for this to exist is far more realistic in America than elsewhere due to its size. Otherwise America and elsewhere is essentially going down to road to western versions of copying China in being a controlled authoritarian state with a social credit system, money and property.....essentially a controlled communist/capitalist mix that essentially embeds the ruling class independent of merit or ability....which was another calling card of communism. That's about as unfree as you can get. People who claim they don't like the far right or far left should reconsider just what state they think they are helping create. Your predictions about the end of the world is how do we say....extremely hyperbolic. The break up of the US doesn't have to mean the break up of a common defence. NATO is an example of that (though NATO is currently going against its founding principle to covertly fighting for a non member). What you seem to support by 'empire' is essentially the bullying of other nations to submit to America's will. That's pretty surprising on the traditional western left....but perhaps not the newer imported version. Voting in Biden has brought us far closer to nuclear war than at any time since the cold war. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2023 12.55am) I’m not supporting the empire. I assumed that you as a nationalist would though.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Dec 23 3.12pm |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Would be interested in watching this. There’s also a lot of parallels with Trump and Hitler. But people on here won’t want to see if hear that. Less with Hitler I think but certainly with Julius Caesar.
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| georgenorman 02 Dec 23 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Would be interested in watching this. There’s also a lot of parallels with Trump and Hitler. But people on here won’t want to see if hear that. Can you give us your list of "a lot of parallels with Trump and Hitler".
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 02 Dec 23 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Less with Hitler I think but certainly with Julius Caesar. Are you sure? The brainwashing and the drive to authoritarianism doesn't seem darkly similar to you?
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| BrentisBack Beckenham 02 Dec 23 4.33pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Can you give us your list of "a lot of parallels with Trump and Hitler". The ranting and carrying on about the people and things that they hate and making enemies out of a certain type of people (Jews/Mexicans/The Left) and further driving polarisation giving them clear division to make it easier to use Populism to win in an election. Both of them use/used the restoration of their countries as their main policy/tagline "Make America great again" Both use/used conspiracy theories to further drive their populism and power amongst their cult like following. One focusing on Jews the other focussing on Mexicans and Chinese etc Both have had media powers to shape the myth of their electability and drove their followers away from looking at any other media than the media that backed/back them: Fox News/Volkischer Beobachter. Their leading styles were very similar and they were actually rather fond of creating and leading in a chaotic environment, putting decisions onto their subordinates and letting their heads roll if the decision went against them. This is all very surface level stuff because I can't be arsed to go an deeper into things that I know you won't take any notice of.
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