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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Apr 22 5.44pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Poverty and a lack of prospects seems an obvious start - whenever times get tough, austerity measures increased etc. you will see a stark increase in violent crime.

(Brexit also made us poorer )

I think we can safely say poverty is a major driver of crime. Solving poverty though? It could be eased for sure, but not solved.
Lack of prospects is an interesting one currently. I remind myself of my old relatives now when I say that there are a lot of jobs out there. I'm presuming that it's like that there at the moment? Loads of firms here struggle to recruit.
My own personal feeling is better pay and conditions, with more flexibility such as work from home, would be helpful. I guess that needs to balance with companies leaving for cheaper climes too. What some companies are getting away with is certainly unacceptable right now. I wouldn't want benefits to rise hugely.
Education - I should be able to say more. From life experience, I can't help but think that 16-18 year olds don't necessarily suit staying in school but at least it's a start. It's quite hard for me to say as I left school at 16 but completed education as an adult: even though I was a high achiever at school, I came from the poorest background. We can't really totally generalise here. It's a complex issue.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 Apr 22 6.02pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I think we can safely say poverty is a major driver of crime.
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Bangladesh, China, Nepal....all very poor. Average crime levels.

Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit....relatively wealthy in World terms. Very violent.

Fatherless kids fuels crime. Same as in Croydon.

It's not a complex issue. It's bleeding obvious, anywhere beyond the hallowed corridors of the BBC.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Apr 2022 6.03pm)

 


7 points from Manchester this season

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 25 Apr 22 6.14pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'The Tories have given up on crime. Not just their policies but their philosophy has failed. For crime is quintessentially a problem the individual cannot tackle alone. Crime demands that communities work as communities to fight it. Labourís commitment is to match popular concern with a constructive and broad-based programme of action'.

'For 14 years the tories have totally neglected crime'.

January 1993 - Tony Blair Labour Shadow Home Secretary.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

'The Tories have given up on crime. Not just their policies but their philosophy has failed. For crime is quintessentially a problem the individual cannot tackle alone. Crime demands that communities work as communities to fight it. Labourís commitment is to match popular concern with a constructive and broad-based programme of action'.

'For 14 years the tories have totally neglected crime'.

January 1993 - Tony Blair Labour Shadow Home Secretary.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Apr 22 6.34pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'The Tories have given up on crime. Not just their policies but their philosophy has failed. For crime is quintessentially a problem the individual cannot tackle alone. Crime demands that communities work as communities to fight it. Labourís commitment is to match popular concern with a constructive and broad-based programme of action'.

'For 14 years the tories have totally neglected crime'.

January 1993 - Tony Blair Labour Shadow Home Secretary.

At least he expanded crime internationally too.

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 25 Apr 22 7.54pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Bangladesh, China, Nepal....all very poor. Average crime levels.

Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit....relatively wealthy in World terms. Very violent.

Fatherless kids fuels crime. Same as in Croydon.

It's not a complex issue. It's bleeding obvious, anywhere beyond the hallowed corridors of the BBC.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Apr 2022 6.03pm)

Perhaps we need to import more males to act as older brothers and fathers?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Apr 22 8.57am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

Perhaps we need to import more males to act as older brothers and fathers?

A society awash with extra surplus men ? Sure, that would be great for the violent-crime statistics.

Maybe it's already the causal link ? For London 2022 being more violent than London 1922 ?

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 26 Apr 22 11.31am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

A society awash with extra surplus men ? Sure, that would be great for the violent-crime statistics.

Maybe it's already the causal link ? For London 2022 being more violent than London 1922 ?

We need to reform the police back to policing real crime and arm them too - oh, and have the death penalty option where the judge thinks it apporpriate.

Edited by georgenorman (26 Apr 2022 11.32am)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 28 Apr 22 3.01pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

At least he expanded crime internationally too.

very good

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Apr 22 3.15pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

London policing is the responsibility of Mayor (did I tell you my dad was a bud driver) Khan.

Roll on May I can't wait for the elections.

See the man stabbed at Beckenham junction on april 2 died last night Badger, its on your manor now so vote wisely-the other guy stabbed was taken to hospital but survived- Beckenham used to be such a lovely area, still is actually, I had a stroll in Bpp a while back, never felt threatened, but the station id obviously a bit dodge!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 22 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

See the man stabbed at Beckenham junction on april 2 died last night Badger, its on your manor now so vote wisely-the other guy stabbed was taken to hospital but survived- Beckenham used to be such a lovely area, still is actually, I had a stroll in Bpp a while back, never felt threatened, but the station id obviously a bit dodge!

Thereís been stabbings at other stations and on trains. Man murdered on the Waterloo line some way out of London. Machete incident at south Croydon I think. Beckenham is still the ideal place live in this quarter of London, but lots of other places there is a risk and itís spreading, unsurprisingly, like the behaviour at bus stops after school every day. Copycat culture and a lack of self control or decency.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Thereís been stabbings at other stations and on trains. Man murdered on the Waterloo line some way out of London. Machete incident at south Croydon I think. Beckenham is still the ideal place live in this quarter of London, but lots of other places there is a risk and itís spreading, unsurprisingly, like the behaviour at bus stops after school every day. Copycat culture and a lack of self control or decency.

Yes, absolutely this plus no understanding or empathy with the difference between right and wrong, itís more like a ďdonít care attitudeĒ. I donít believe communities can police communities, harsher penalties are what is required and giving the police the ability to do what they are supposed to ie protect the public.

 

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