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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 22 Feb 21 4.46pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Originally posted by Terry Ven

The Ultras are getting very big ideas about themselves. I mean who are they other than paying fans the same as the rest of us, the only difference being that they wear black hoodies and want to be the centre of attention all the time. We used to sing and support the team before they elected themselves to be more Palace than anyone else. Do they reckon that the club want to be in our current situation? We haven't got the money or the players they seem to think we have!


You are absolutely correct, I agree with every word.
To be honest I find the "Ultras" a bit of an embarrassment.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 22 Feb 21 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

How come FFP only applies to Palace?

West Ham never seem to have any problems with FFP

Nor do Brighton, who have a loan of over 200m from owner. Are loans allowed? If so our owners could match that surely?Is SP hiding behind this to explain lack of investment?

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 22 Feb 21 5.13pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

You are absolutely correct, I agree with every word.
To be honest I find the "Ultras" a bit of an embarrassment.

Most grown up Palace fans do.
When I chat to mates that support other London clubs I hope the 'Ultras' subject doesn't come up and cringe when it does.
They dont seem to even realise, they are light entertainment for other clubs fans.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 21 5.45pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Most grown up Palace fans do.
When I chat to mates that support other London clubs I hope the 'Ultras' subject doesn't come up and cringe when it does.
They dont seem to even realise, they are light entertainment for other clubs fans.

Arsenal's atmosphere has improved during Covid.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 22 Feb 21 7.08pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Nor do Brighton, who have a loan of over 200m from owner. Are loans allowed? If so our owners could match that surely?Is SP hiding behind this to explain lack of investment?

You might be doing Bloom a disservice. He has chucked 394m at Brighton during his ten years as owner, through funding, loans and shares, and never got (or sought) a penny of it back as far as I can see.

What must be remembered though is that within that 394m he paid for the stadium and training ground, which is not subject to FFP.

He has still 'lent' Brighton a lot to put into the team though. From the figures I can see, the total loans since they got into the Premier league are at just over 110m over three years. For context, we've borrowed about 55-60m for football purposes from the Americans.

Brighton must have made a convincing FFP case regarding Blooms 'loans'. Apparently they managed to make a profit in their first year in the premier league somehow (very rare), and though they have spent a lot of money since, they will have an increased share of the TV money soon, as your share goes up depending on how long you've been in the league. They also have decent income from the stadium and its corporate facilities. Bloom has shown that the club should be able to afford his loans, hence he can provide them.

The priceoffootball website, which is really good, offers this:

Brighton are fortunate to have an owner is Bloom who has a strategy for the club and as such is unlikely to indulge in some of the madcap short term schemes that have left many in the EFL looking very vulnerable.

Basically, he has 'lent' Brighton money, but they are good for it, possibly in a way that we currently aren't.

That doesn't mean that if we had the new stand, with its profitable corporate facilities etc that our owners would approach Palace in the same way as Bloom of course, but only time will tell us that.

 

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag glorious Goring by sea 22 Feb 21 7.24pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

You are absolutely correct, I agree with every word.
To be honest I find the "Ultras" a bit of an embarrassment.

at least they made the effort to call out some of the clowns that are taking a big pay day, on a weekly basis from the club.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Normandy 23 Feb 21 9.35am Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

The banner worked, then...

Discuss.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 23 Feb 21 9.39am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Embarrassing?

Brighton now need (and will hope for) Palace to win their next game and for themselves to have at least 2O something shots to score against a BFS team.

Silly thread.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 23 Feb 21 9.40am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

The banner worked, then...

Discuss.


A lie is a lie.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 23 Feb 21 10.29am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

The banner worked, then...

Discuss.

Personally I stand by my original response to the banner and statement. Calling out the players for a lack of effort is perfectly legitimate, is exactly what many of us would do if we were in the ground this season, and might even have had an effect last night (though who knows?).

The rest of the statement, which is by far the largest part of it, is total bulls***, spoken from a position of willful ignorance and misplaced entitlement.

I'd have had plenty of time for a banner that said: 'Some of you are overpaid and under committed. Try harder you b******s.' But that's not what it said.

 

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