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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 18 Mar 21 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Right now there's a 'Keep Roy' thread on the Home page at the same time as a 'Roy Out' one.

What a fickle lot we are. Or are we? It didn't take long for the Keep thread to say the opposite, and for quite a few pages a lot of support was garnered on the Out case and it's moved that way again thanks to sensible input from BTP.

I'm sticking to my view that Roy has done what he was required to do and kept us in the Premiership so has done his job well. His contract comes to an end in the summer so the odds are that he'll retire gracefully like the gentleman he is. Talk of 'getting rid' is so disrespectful to the man.

I reckon a straw poll would find most of us wishing him well whilst hoping for a creative and exciting man to replace him next season. None of us like to watch defensive and negative football, that's a given.

However, I do get the jitters when I consider who Roy's replacement might be. Especially when I see some of the names lobbed about on here.

 


Dad and I would watch games on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end, probably at the same time as Roy.

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View The Heath Eagle's Profile The Heath Eagle Flag Thornton Heath 18 Mar 21 3.58pm Send a Private Message to The Heath Eagle Add The Heath Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

However, I do get the jitters when I consider who Roy's replacement might be. Especially when I see some of the names lobbed about on here.

This.

Pardew has been mentioned more than once. Steve Coppell too.

Might as well go and see if Arthur Rowe can be persuaded out retirement, once we find what plot he was buried in.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 21 4.04pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by The Heath Eagle

This.

Pardew has been mentioned more than once. Steve Coppell too.

Might as well go and see if Arthur Rowe can be persuaded out retirement, once we find what plot he was buried in.

Might as well, probably have similar ideas to what we do now. Fear of change is hurting us.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View The Heath Eagle's Profile The Heath Eagle Flag Thornton Heath 18 Mar 21 5.28pm Send a Private Message to The Heath Eagle Add The Heath Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Might as well, probably have similar ideas to what we do now. Fear of change is hurting us.

I am not afraid to change the manager but fans such as yourself lack perspective. You want to see a change no matter what, when Roy is keeping us safely in the league while the board are selling players for £50m and not reinvesting the money in the squad. How is Roy responsible for such lack of ambition at board level?

I want there to be a clear idea and philosophy from board level downwards. Some punt on an ex player or some foreign coach while the fundamentals at board level are missing is a recipe for relegation.

I do hope you will be there back in the champo if you get your way. Somehow I doubt it.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Mar 21 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by m/k mick

if Roy is going to stay, i am personally fine with that, but it must be sorted out very soon,

Just because we don't know what is happening doesn't mean that it hasn't been sorted. Perhaps there is a new manager in the background and perhaps he is advising on squad changes but we just don't know about it

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 18 Mar 21 7.26pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

We are now basically safe and Roy has said there will be no contract discussions till he has kept his end of the bargain and kept us safe. So with that in mind, it looks like Roy will be staying on a little longer.

It makes perfect sense in my book. Lots of fans won't be happy but the future of the club is at stake and Roy is the perfect manager to keep things steady.

 

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 18 Mar 21 11.54pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Originally posted by The Heath Eagle

I am not afraid to change the manager but fans such as yourself lack perspective. You want to see a change no matter what, when Roy is keeping us safely in the league while the board are selling players for £50m and not reinvesting the money in the squad. How is Roy responsible for such lack of ambition at board level?

I want there to be a clear idea and philosophy from board level downwards. Some punt on an ex player or some foreign coach while the fundamentals at board level are missing is a recipe for relegation.

I do hope you will be there back in the champo if you get your way. Somehow I doubt it.

100% Ambition comes from the top and there is none, apart from stay in the league. Unless there is significant investment, why change the manager.

 

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View Therealeaglestilidie's Profile Therealeaglestilidie Flag 19 Mar 21 6.19am Send a Private Message to Therealeaglestilidie Add Therealeaglestilidie as a friend

Man City
Man Utd
Leicester
Chelsea
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Tottenham
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Crystal Palace

11th in the premier league is probably the highest position realistically that we could have achieved.

At the start of the season would you have said we would have finished above any of the teams currently above us, probably not apart from West Ham and Villa who are having great seasons but have also spent money.

I think that Roy has done the job he was bought in to do which was to stabilise and retain our premier league status.

Unless we are bought by an Arab Sheik or Russian oligarch we are where we are with the recourses at our disposal.

This has been mentioned before but Charlton fans got bored of finishing mid table under Alan Curbishley and look where they ended up.

 


I'm so Palace I don't even know it

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Mar 21 7.21am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

This has been mentioned before but Charlton fans got bored of finishing mid table under Alan Curbishley and look where they ended up.

I always think that this argument is brought up by people who don't have a more sensible response as they omit to mention all of the other clubs who changed manager and did really well and there are loads of them.

Presumably you also believe that if we spend more than tuppence ha'penny we'll go into Administration again

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 19 Mar 21 7.31am Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

Man City
Man Utd
Leicester
Chelsea
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Tottenham
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Crystal Palace

11th in the premier league is probably the highest position realistically that we could have achieved.

At the start of the season would you have said we would have finished above any of the teams currently above us, probably not apart from West Ham and Villa who are having great seasons but have also spent money.

I think that Roy has done the job he was bought in to do which was to stabilise and retain our premier league status.

Unless we are bought by an Arab Sheik or Russian oligarch we are where we are with the recourses at our disposal.

This has been mentioned before but Charlton fans got bored of finishing mid table under Alan Curbishley and look where they ended up.

I think we are getting a little carried away here....this is not the final league table ! We have just come off a run of arguably more winnable games, letís look at it again when the season is complete and then judge how we have performed.

Although some people will probably want Roy to manage for ever he is fast approaching the end of his management career due to his age. To make a comparison with Alan Curbishley is not sensible.

Edited by BelfastEagle (19 Mar 2021 7.34am)

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 19 Mar 21 8.23am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

I think we are getting a little carried away here....this is not the final league table ! We have just come off a run of arguably more winnable games, letís look at it again when the season is complete and then judge how we have performed.

Although some people will probably want Roy to manage for ever he is fast approaching the end of his management career due to his age. To make a comparison with Alan Curbishley is not sensible.

Edited by BelfastEagle (19 Mar 2021 7.34am)

Although correct, it is the fact though that this manager has achieved this for every season with us so far and is on course for another with a squad which is now deteriorating in front of our eyes let alone his, he should be awarded with a statue not all this horrible crap, he needs new blood on the pitch he definitely doesn't want his blood pressure to go through the roof next season.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 19 Mar 21 9.39am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

Man City
Man Utd
Leicester
Chelsea
West Ham
Liverpool
Everton
Tottenham
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Crystal Palace

11th in the premier league is probably the highest position realistically that we could have achieved.

At the start of the season would you have said we would have finished above any of the teams currently above us, probably not apart from West Ham and Villa who are having great seasons but have also spent money.

I think that Roy has done the job he was bought in to do which was to stabilise and retain our premier league status.

Unless we are bought by an Arab Sheik or Russian oligarch we are where we are with the recourses at our disposal.

This has been mentioned before but Charlton fans got bored of finishing mid table under Alan Curbishley and look where they ended up.


The table highlights the status quo. Itís not a managerial thing in total by any means. It is in fact in most cases a matter of financial means.
Roy has done the job he was hired to do. The table shows that.
The only reason to change the manager is to hope to change the style of play, probably on the same budget . In other words an entertainment issue in the main.
For some it goes beyond that. They seem to suggest we could be a top half side , merely by sacking Roy.
The Curbishley, Charlton, story is ,whether itís liked or not , a prime example of clubs hitting the buffers, approximately where we are now. Another recent example is Stoke.
If you add to these a succession of clubs that have flirted with the Premier league changing management regularly making little or no improvement to that clubs prospects. Then any reason to want Roy gone, are limited
unless the club has a genuine well financed plan to take the club to another level. Even the age argument , is not completely sound, because the record shows Roy, does the job. Any manager has to be followed one day, but itís usually best when the occupant is no longer performing on the budget , or not thought to be able to handle a better financed situation. In this case he does well on the budget , and a better financed situation has a huge question mark over it.


 

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