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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 19 Apr 21 9.30pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Lets not pretend, you need money in football, but the greed in this new league takes the biscuit, especially the non relegation aspect. These greedy six clubs, or their owners, don"t give a stuff about the history or any other clubs, only the Roubels they can make. The irony is, most on here cheer on good businessmen, and much as I despise the greedy clubs, the owners are actually just businessmen, making money. If it was any other business most would be applauding them for their business nous, so why all the fuss? Sure, we won"t find a saturday so interesting not playing the glamour clubs, but we should be happy that some business heads are making bank, and big bank at that, are we just jealous?

 

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Man Utd shares up 10% today, Juventus to, it"s not all bad news!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Apr 21 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Capitalism needs to work for the people. A tiny minority will always become far wealthier than everyone else due to the process, but society has to benefit as a whole.
Football reflects the wider economics of capitalism and the related downside of globalism.

Up to a point, money improves things, but there comes a time when it becomes detrimental unless it is independently regulated. We have reached that point.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Capitalism needs to work for the people. A tiny minority will always become far wealthier than everyone else due to the process, but society has to benefit as a whole.
Football reflects the wider economics of capitalism and the related downside of globalism.

Up to a point, money improves things, but there comes a time when it becomes detrimental unless it is independently regulated. We have reached that point.

Nicely put .

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Capitalism needs to work for the people. A tiny minority will always become far wealthier than everyone else due to the process, but society has to benefit as a whole.
Football reflects the wider economics of capitalism and the related downside of globalism.

Up to a point, money improves things, but there comes a time when it becomes detrimental unless it is independently regulated. We have reached that point.

Yes, there needs to be push back in this case. It's clearly not something that is fan focused in the slightest and in fact will act to the detriment of existing competitions. It's time to have a bit of people power rather than get dragged along with something that makes a mockery of the game solely to enrich a handful of individuals who don't give a f*** about football to begin with.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 20 Apr 21 1.59pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Capitalism is good for elite sport, and elite sport is good for capitalist countries.

The constant competitive search for marginal gains has lead to money being ploughed into research for every aspect of the business from training and diet to facilities and psychology. This has been passed on to the general population to give them better knowledge and facilities to become fit.

Investment in sport has provided jobs and help the communities next to venues providing sustainable business and improved transport links. Huge construction schemes have lead to engineering innovation passed onto other sectors.

The super league isn't free market capitalism, as it's trying to restrict competition. The premier league, for all it's faults, awards financial prizes based on merit. Where as the failing Spanish League has centralised power under the control of Real Madrid and Barcelona who take all the cash and restrict competition to serve their own best interest. I'd say its far closer to a socialist system despite of the disgusting amount of money involved.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

Capitalism is good for elite sport, and elite sport is good for capitalist countries.

The constant competitive search for marginal gains has lead to money being ploughed into research for every aspect of the business from training and diet to facilities and psychology. This has been passed on to the general population to give them better knowledge and facilities to become fit.

Investment in sport has provided jobs and help the communities next to venues providing sustainable business and improved transport links. Huge construction schemes have lead to engineering innovation passed onto other sectors.

The super league isn't free market capitalism, as it's trying to restrict competition. The premier league, for all it's faults, awards financial prizes based on merit. Where as the failing Spanish League has centralised power under the control of Real Madrid and Barcelona who take all the cash and restrict competition to serve their own best interest. I'd say its far closer to a socialist system despite of the disgusting amount of money involved.


The socialist bankers at JP Morgan funding the new league perhaps?

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud


The socialist bankers at JP Morgan funding the new league perhaps?

Everyone banks somewhere. Even the relics of Spanish Nationalism and Separatism.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

Everyone banks somewhere. Even the relics of Spanish Nationalism and Separatism.

Indeed, but not everyone funds a new super league to the detriment of another league and a whole country, less greedy JP Morgan bankers and 6 premiership chairmen! Capitalism at it"s worst, but funny the people only speak out when it comes to bite them on the arse, I have been warning of it for a few years now.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 21 Apr 21 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Sure it's good. In fact, it's great. Without it, sport as we know it wouldn't exist today.

Football would still be played on muddy pitches by overweight, unskilled players watched by blokes, mostly, in tatty clothes and uncomfortable surroundings.

All sport has been improved by capitalism and the money it generates. In the sense that the overall spectacle is far more attractive than it otherwise would be.

We often say things aren't as good as the old days, but in truth that's usually rose tinted stuff. Aside from football my other favourite sport is motor racing. Capitalism has changed it out of all recognition. Money has improved safety for starters. But, I hate the fact that corporate money dominates at events, taking away a lot of the viewing opportunities once available to true enthusiasts. Same as the rise of the 'prawn sandwich' brigade at football stadiums.

However, if we're honest with ourselves, we have to admit that the sport itself is improved with the money that capitalism generates. What we've seen in the last few days has been greed, not capitalism. That was the killer.

"While money doesn't talk, it swears"
Bob Dylan

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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You hit the ball firmly on the head, Greed. The question is,do the bankers, whom we might call capitalists in general, have a switch off point when making money?Do they have a red,greed line?This is where it becomes very very bad for sport, capitalism at its worst!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 21 Apr 21 6.44pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

You hit the ball firmly on the head, Greed. The question is,do the bankers, whom we might call capitalists in general, have a switch off point when making money?Do they have a red,greed line?This is where it becomes very very bad for sport, capitalism at its worst!

Did you have a line when to stop earning.
I think the stupid league was a bad bit of planning but with consultation and the promise of a % to all football associations for grass roots it could have been listened to. What would you think about capitalism then? Would it still be bad if they promised money for cancer,or homeless or your love the NHS. I'm afraid CP you do sometimes appear, and I may be wrong, but appear to be a very envious person. Capitalism is giving you and yours finance.
How much pension do you think they get in Cuba or rhodesia. If you bite the hand that feeds you eventually it won't go to the cupboard!

 

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