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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 16 May 21 6.14am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by stujii

Agreed but that’s not because of the division we’re in it’s down to RH and his tactics. He has no ambition other than survival and that’s the missing denominator when compared to being in the Championship. In the Championship you have the ambition to get promotion and because of the playoffs the chance and excitement of that can last up to the end of the season. Not all RH’s fault granted, with little financial backup from the board. However we should at least have the genuine ambition for European football or at least a Cup Final however RH knows if he plays his park the bus way and concentrates solely on survival in the Prem, statistically he will just gain enough points to achieve his goal

We need to risk more, have more ambition or of course things in the Prem will be tedious ...Time for a young , hungry motivational manager

Next season our aim should be a cup final... the league is what it is and the position we finish in looks comfortable, so it's time to push for a comp and take that seriously.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 16 May 21 6.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by stujii


Agreed but that’s not because of the division we’re in it’s down to RH and his tactics. He has no ambition other than survival

I'm not sure that I agree with you about Roy's lack of ambition as it's my belief that he is carrying out Parish's prime directive as best he can with limited resources

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 16 May 21 6.39am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

Is it?
Compared to staying up, getting up, cup semi /finals, play off semi finals /finals.staying up( last game of the season) Games against our rivals.

An away game. Great result, not denying it , but it’s more about the opposition than Palace.


It's also about THAT goal. Having said that you are right about the special occasions. Can still remember the euphoria of the team of the 80s promotion clincher with 51,000 of us present. Can still picture the goals going in.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 16 May 21 6.43am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

The adrenaline rush and excitement that come from the one off games the author cites come through a process of playing throughout a season - for the relief and joy of the Wednesday game we had to be crap all through the rest of the season - not much enjoyment there!
On the other hand play off victory is a reward for a season well campaigned. What I think the author is saying is that the excitement and anticipation of these games is sorely lacking in the PL. Indeed given the nature of the beast, how could it be any different? Aiming to avoid relegation has been our lot for 8 seasons now. It's the same for the teams around us. The players know it but are amply compensated. It's all a bit of a charade.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 16 May 21 9.03am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

I’d go to any European game , anywhere. Bosnia, galatasary, Serbia, Russia, Poland. wouldn’t care.
But do you honestly think our second team has a slim chance of winning the cup? No chance.

Yeah you could actually die at any of those venues so it’ll be one killing 2 birds with one stone, including yourself.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 16 May 21 9.14am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

I found pardew entertaining... losing 22-21 to Swansea as an example.

I can’t remember how I celebrated away goals in the house back then. Was it with the same ‘’Oh we’ve scored’’ as now, knowing there’d be more goals for both sides unlike no attacks for the rest of the game now? Or did I properly celebrate and then couldn’t get over 3 more goals in the last few minutes?

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 16 May 21 9.23am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Tier 1 top 6 teams never go down.

Tier 2 teams rarely go down but they do like villa.

Tier 3 teams will inevitably boing between the divisions. Sometimes like Sunderland they drop even further.

We are tier 3 so the op will inevitably get what he wants whether he likes it or not.

A few more years in this division with careful growth and we may rise into tier 2. That seems the business plan. Great for business but not for excitement.

 

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View Melbourne Eagle's Profile Melbourne Eagle Flag Melbourne 16 May 21 9.46am Send a Private Message to Melbourne Eagle Add Melbourne Eagle as a friend

The only way Palace will grow is to be in the Prem. More people around the world know of Palace than they did nine years ago. Best wayy to attract local UK and Croydon area kids is to play and beat the top 6. Wonder what the 3-3 with Liverpool did to our standing?

We have an exciting Academy funded by the Prem.

I'm a bit bored too but its not about me or individual fans its about the club improving and growing.

 

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View Dippo's Profile Dippo Flag Coulsdon 16 May 21 9.54am Send a Private Message to Dippo Add Dippo as a friend

Steady growth means recruiting wisely something we're not very good at

 

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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 16 May 21 9.59am Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Nice one Casual this has been a thought provoking thread.

I think someone referenced the “Norwich model” on a different thread A couple of weeks ago (might have been Viabow) as a realistic way of running Palace and when I thought about it I kinda thought (in the absence of a new Billionaire owner) it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
But having secured Premier League stability- it’s a difficult thing to give up. I know we all moan when we lose, most fans across the country do, but overall I had been satisfied with our lot up until this season. I think it simply boils down to the fact that I just want to see us play better football more often than not.
For me that starts and ends with the right manager and I really don’t think it’s anymore complicated than that.

The squad needs a refresh/overhaul but what’s the point loading the Bench with new players when the manager doesn’t play them?

Clearly there is a risk of relegation in a change from Roy - but there’s also a risk of that if we keep him!

The smart move imo is for the next manager to have the experience and tools to bounce back up, if the worst were to happen just like Norwich have done this season. I reckon a fair few fans would accept that.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 May 21 10.43am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Tier 1 top 6 teams never go down.

Tier 2 teams rarely go down but they do like villa.

Tier 3 teams will inevitably boing between the divisions. Sometimes like Sunderland they drop even further.

We are tier 3 so the op will inevitably get what he wants whether he likes it or not.

A few more years in this division with careful growth and we may rise into tier 2. That seems the business plan. Great for business but not for excitement.

you forgot to mention Tier 4.....a brief summer in the sun and never to be seen again....Blackpool, Bradford, Oldham

or Tier 5....often doing ok in the Championship but rarely if ever getting promoted....Luton, Millwall, coventry

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 May 2021 10.47am)

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 16 May 21 10.46am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Watching man.c is f***ing boring, I only watch Palace play and perhaps others who's results will affect our standing, I watched the FA cup final only because I wanted to see Chelsea lose because I hate them more, I'd definitely enjoy the Championship more then this crap league and only hoped with being here we'd be able to improve our ground, what a laugh that is.

 

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