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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 May 21 12.46pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

while i love Cahill, i reckon he will now only be effective for 65 minutes per game, or to come on later as a Sub.

at nearly 36, he is the oldest man in our squad.

and to echo the silence of everybody above, Luka is now only a shadow of his former self.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 May 2021 12.20pm)


Fernandinho is already 36 and is negotiating another year with Citeh. It's really about fitness (think Jimmy Anderson and cricket). Unfortunately, Cahill hasn't worn that well but he can do a job even if not every week.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 May 21 6.58pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


Mitchell did well today. Against some of the best attacking players on the planet. It could have been 7-0 on another day.

I reckon he has earned the shirt for next season.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 May 21 8.01pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


Mitchell did well today. Against some of the best attacking players on the planet. It could have been 7-0 on another day.

I reckon he has earned the shirt for next season.


Agreed, although there are some on the match thread who thought he was rubbish today.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 23 May 21 10.12pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Keep everyone except PVA, Hennessey and Wilf. And I'd take or leave McArthy too.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 23 May 21 10.38pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

It's a case of pragmatism versus wishful thinking.

For me we should let the following players contracts run out:
- Hennessey (no need for him as a no 3 keeper)
- Henderson (not really used him to date and good cover in U23s)
- Sakho (Hardly seen him this season)
- Wickham (seen even less of him)
- PvA (too inconsistent and fails in his defensive duties too often)
- Dann (too slow and past it for this league)
- Clyne (I actually prefer Ward who I think would be better in a system which wasn't so narrow)

Should try and retain the following:
- Benteke
- Schlupp
- Townsend
- Cahill
- Ward
- Woods

These players could be let go if we have satisfactory (younger) replacements:
- McCarthy
- Kelly
- McArthur

All the current U23s are still young enough to represent us at that level next season. It would be good if they can win the play-off tomorrow so they can pitch themselves against the big clubs next year.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 23 May 21 11.44pm Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

After the last couple of games, think it is time to say farewell to our wonderful right-back Joel Ward. His lack of pace cost us in every game. Wonder what Clyne is like now when he can not get into the side..?
Others to release: Sakho, McCarthy, Hennessey, Dann (been great for us), Tomkins (too injury prone), Wickham (obvious).

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 24 May 21 1.31am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Still think both Sakho and Wickham could be worth keeping, obviously with reduced terms or some creative pay as you play basis. Both quality on their day and if they get an injury-free run, would be like a couple of new 20mil + signings.

(I realise it's a big IF on the injury-free run.)

Edited by sprites (24 May 2021 1.32am)

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 24 May 21 2.29am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Wilf: We have to keep him, especially with Eze out.

Ayew: Don't see what he brings to our squad anymore, goodbye.

Hennesey: Third choice, no reason to keep him. Goodbye.

Sakho: Not unless he's willing to take a massive cut in wages. Goodbye.

Benteke: Not unless he's willing to take a massive cut in wages. Goodbye.

Schlupp: He's a bench player, not sure how much we want to pay him.

PVA: I like him, but as a bench player on reduced wages.

Cahill: A one year contract at most.

Ward: Bench player at best.

Townsend: Bench player at best.

McCarthy: I'd lean toward keeping him. He's similar to Luka, but better.

Kelly: We should be able to do better.

McArthur: Bench player at best.

Mateta: Keep.

Basically, we have a bunch of players who are either too old, or too injured to count on playing on every day. Roy never rotated players. Our new manager could get something out of players like Townsend, if he's on the bench most of the time, and starting here and there.

Benteke is another example. The guy was total sh-t for years, then when he's playing for a new contract, he looks great in a few games at the end of the season. This is another case where Roy f-ed up by not giving Mateta and/or Bats some starts so we could see if they would be adequate replacements for Benteke. But no, he stubbornly played Benteke every match. Now we don't now what Mateta and Bats can do, and we don't know if Benteke could be useful, or only motivated when playing for a new deal.

The disconnect between SP, DF, and Roy was cancerous to our squad this season. I mostly blame Roy for that, refusing to play anyone new.

 


2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 24 May 21 4.15am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Wow. Lots to disagree with here. Where do I begin.

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Wilf: We have to keep him, especially with Eze out.

We really don't. He doesn't want to be here and his performances have shown that. If we can get anything in excess of 40 mil, I think we take it.

Ayew: Don't see what he brings to our squad anymore, goodbye.

Works his socks off. Chips in with goals. Covers wide positions, #10 and striker. Worth keeping for cover.

Hennesey: Third choice, no reason to keep him. Goodbye.

Agreed.

Sakho: Not unless he's willing to take a massive cut in wages. Goodbye.

Agreed. Although I'd be pushing the reduced terms, because when fit he's up there with our best.

Benteke: Not unless he's willing to take a massive cut in wages. Goodbye.

Madness. He's been in great form recently. Shows what he can do when we play to his strengths. Agreed that we need to try a different wage structure though (performance based.)

Schlupp: He's a bench player, not sure how much we want to pay him.

Not necessarily. Looked one of our more dangerous at times.

PVA: I like him, but as a bench player on reduced wages.

Agreed.

Cahill: A one year contract at most.

Agreed.

Ward: Bench player at best.

Agreed.

Townsend: Bench player at best.

Bit unfair - he's been our best player last couple of weeks.

McCarthy: I'd lean toward keeping him. He's similar to Luka, but better.

Nah, I'd get rid. Nowhere near as good as Luka.

Kelly: We should be able to do better.

Agreed.

McArthur: Bench player at best.

Rubbish. One of our most important players. Missed him.

Mateta: Keep.

For what?

Basically, we have a bunch of players who are either too old, or too injured to count on playing on every day. Roy never rotated players. Our new manager could get something out of players like Townsend, if he's on the bench most of the time, and starting here and there.

Benteke is another example. The guy was total sh-t for years, then when he's playing for a new contract, he looks great in a few games at the end of the season. This is another case where Roy f-ed up by not giving Mateta and/or Bats some starts so we could see if they would be adequate replacements for Benteke. But no, he stubbornly played Benteke every match. Now we don't now what Mateta and Bats can do, and we don't know if Benteke could be useful, or only motivated when playing for a new deal.

The playing for a new contract thing is rubbish. And it's getting boring. Players don't do that. We've made it up.

The disconnect between SP, DF, and Roy was cancerous to our squad this season. I mostly blame Roy for that, refusing to play anyone new.


Edited by sprites (24 May 2021 4.17am)

Edited by sprites (24 May 2021 4.17am)

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 24 May 21 6.53am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Still think both Sakho and Wickham could be worth keeping, obviously with reduced terms or some creative pay as you play basis. Both quality on their day and if they get an injury-free run, would be like a couple of new 20mil + signings.

(I realise it's a big IF on the injury-free run.)

Edited by sprites (24 May 2021 1.32am)

I have read some bizarre statements on here all season but this has got to top them all.

Keep Sakho and Wickham hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahanananha

Edited by EddieMac (24 May 2021 6.55am)

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 24 May 21 7.12am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Out:

Clyne: Will be let go and rightly so.

Hennessy: Iím sure he will get an offer from the Championship.

Sakho: He has been as good as gone since the start of the year.

Wickham: Please god get rid of him.

PVA: His mind has been made up to leave and he wonít be short of decent offers.

Bats: Obviously going as only on loan.

Scott Dann: He looks finished so there is no way he should be offered a new deal.

McCarthy: The injuries this season should have pushed the club to move him on.

Stay:

Benteke: After his end to the season I will be surprised if he is not offered a new deal but problem is now he will have offers elsewhere to compete with ours.

Cahill: Has shown enough this year to be offered a 1 year deal.

Ward: He has his faults stays injury free but and decent this season and at 31 I think I will be offered a new deal.


We have a major puzzle ahead this summer and I think a lot of the contract issues will be decided on wether we have other players lined up.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 24 May 21 8.34am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Itís been reported that Ferguson has a long term injury now.
Puts Ward in a strong negotiating position for a new deal.
There must be doubt about offering Clyne another contract with his injury record.
Could mean we also need to be looking at a right back to the other positions on the shopping list.

 

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