Which players to keep...in your opinion ?

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 24 May 21 8.47am
Originally posted by EddieMac Out: Clyne: Will be let go and rightly so. Hennessy: I’m sure he will get an offer from the Championship. Sakho: He has been as good as gone since the start of the year. Wickham: Please god get rid of him. PVA: His mind has been made up to leave and he won’t be short of decent offers. Bats: Obviously going as only on loan. Scott Dann: He looks finished so there is no way he should be offered a new deal. McCarthy: The injuries this season should have pushed the club to move him on. Stay: Benteke: After his end to the season I will be surprised if he is not offered a new deal but problem is now he will have offers elsewhere to compete with ours. Cahill: Has shown enough this year to be offered a 1 year deal. Ward: He has his faults stays injury free but and decent this season and at 31 I think I will be offered a new deal. We have a major puzzle ahead this summer and I think a lot of the contract issues will be decided on wether we have other players lined up. Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract. I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 24 May 21 8.47am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Out:

Clyne: Will be let go and rightly so.

Hennessy: I’m sure he will get an offer from the Championship.

Sakho: He has been as good as gone since the start of the year.

Wickham: Please god get rid of him.

PVA: His mind has been made up to leave and he won’t be short of decent offers.

Bats: Obviously going as only on loan.

Scott Dann: He looks finished so there is no way he should be offered a new deal.

McCarthy: The injuries this season should have pushed the club to move him on.

Stay:

Benteke: After his end to the season I will be surprised if he is not offered a new deal but problem is now he will have offers elsewhere to compete with ours.

Cahill: Has shown enough this year to be offered a 1 year deal.

Ward: He has his faults stays injury free but and decent this season and at 31 I think I will be offered a new deal.

We have a major puzzle ahead this summer and I think a lot of the contract issues will be decided on wether we have other players lined up.

Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract.

I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer.

Old, Ungifted and White

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 24 May 21 8.53am
Originally posted by NEILLO Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract. I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer. I am in total agreement and had this conversation only last night. He will be 36 this year and his performances have waned over the season.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 24 May 21 8.53am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract.

I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer.

I am in total agreement and had this conversation only last night.
He will be 36 this year and his performances have waned over the season.

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southnorwoodhill 24 May 21 8.58am
Originally posted by NEILLO Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract. I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer. Agreed. He is one of the main reasons we sit so deep, he's slow. I noticed a few times when he has failed to react quick enough to block, and turns his back resulting in opposition goals. I was surprised when he came in, I thought we should have been looking for younger players then; now the CB area is desperate for an overhaul. Edited by southnorwoodhill (24 May 2021 8.59am)
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Originally posted by NEILLO

Only one of these I would change is Cahill. I know he's ( like all of our CB's ) had injury problems this season, but I think he's underperformed and not worth another expensive contract.

I think we need to sign at least 2 CB's in the summer.

Agreed. He is one of the main reasons we sit so deep, he's slow. I noticed a few times when he has failed to react quick enough to block, and turns his back resulting in opposition goals. I was surprised when he came in, I thought we should have been looking for younger players then; now the CB area is desperate for an overhaul.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (24 May 2021 8.59am)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 24 May 21 9.09am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Agreed. He is one of the main reasons we sit so deep, he's slow. I noticed a few times when he has failed to react quick enough to block, and turns his back resulting in opposition goals. I was surprised when he came in, I thought we should have been looking for younger players then; now the CB area is desperate for an overhaul. Edited by southnorwoodhill (24 May 2021 8.59am) I concur with these sentiments whilst adding that sitting deep is not solely due to Cahill's deficiencies in the twilight of his career. Central defence is definitely an area which needs strengthening. Edited by Willo (24 May 2021 9.09am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 24 May 21 9.09am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Agreed. He is one of the main reasons we sit so deep, he's slow. I noticed a few times when he has failed to react quick enough to block, and turns his back resulting in opposition goals. I was surprised when he came in, I thought we should have been looking for younger players then; now the CB area is desperate for an overhaul.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (24 May 2021 8.59am)

I concur with these sentiments whilst adding that sitting deep is not solely due to Cahill's deficiencies in the twilight of his career.
Central defence is definitely an area which needs strengthening.

Edited by Willo (24 May 2021 9.09am)

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sprites Auckland 24 May 21 9.28am
Originally posted by EddieMac I have read some bizarre statements on here all season but this has got to top them all. Keep Sakho and Wickham hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahanananha Edited by EddieMac (24 May 2021 6.55am) Wow are you 9?? Care to offer a rebuttal?
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sprites

Auckland 24 May 21 9.28am

Originally posted by EddieMac

I have read some bizarre statements on here all season but this has got to top them all.

Keep Sakho and Wickham hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahanananha

Edited by EddieMac (24 May 2021 6.55am)

Wow are you 9?? Care to offer a rebuttal?

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 May 21 9.30am
Originally posted by PatrickA It’s been reported that Ferguson has a long term injury now. Puts Ward in a strong negotiating position for a new deal. There must be doubt about offering Clyne another contract with his injury record. Could mean we also need to be looking at a right back to the other positions on the shopping list. Seems what you are correct . . . [Link] I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 24 May 21 9.30am

Originally posted by PatrickA

It’s been reported that Ferguson has a long term injury now.
Puts Ward in a strong negotiating position for a new deal.
There must be doubt about offering Clyne another contract with his injury record.
Could mean we also need to be looking at a right back to the other positions on the shopping list.

Seems what you are correct . . .

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I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Fatherken 24 May 21 9.52am
keep Butland ,Townsend , Tompkins , Eze , Wilf , Ward , Kouyate , Cahill , Benteke , Clyne , Mitchell ,Schlupp , and both Mc's . In my opinion .
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Fatherken

24 May 21 9.52am

keep
Butland ,Townsend , Tompkins , Eze , Wilf , Ward , Kouyate , Cahill , Benteke , Clyne , Mitchell ,Schlupp , and both Mc's . In my opinion .

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EddieMac 25 May 21 6.15am
Originally posted by sprites Wow are you 9?? Care to offer a rebuttal? Oh sorry I thought you were joking that’s why I laughed. If you are actually serious about keeping them both then I can’t really say much more.
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EddieMac

25 May 21 6.15am

Originally posted by sprites

Wow are you 9?? Care to offer a rebuttal?

Oh sorry I thought you were joking that’s why I laughed. If you are actually serious about keeping them both then I can’t really say much more.

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sprites Auckland 25 May 21 12.32pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Oh sorry I thought you were joking that’s why I laughed. If you are actually serious about keeping them both then I can’t really say much more. Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start? My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them. Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless.
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sprites

Auckland 25 May 21 12.32pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Oh sorry I thought you were joking that’s why I laughed. If you are actually serious about keeping them both then I can’t really say much more.

Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start?

My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them.

Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 25 May 21 12.50pm
Originally posted by sprites Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start? My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them. Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless. You are not wrong. After all Sakho is widely recognised by Palace fans as having been a very good defender and Wickham is still younger than the vast majority of our 1st team squad. BUT can we realistically expect them to become injury free? I suppose we have to pass that one over to our medical people. How often can a player's body get injured and repaired and not become more susceptible to further injuries? I don't know. I'll leave that to fans with the medical knowledge. BUT, if there is hope for these two players and if we could retain them on some form of a pay as they play basis then I wouldn't rule that out.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 25 May 21 12.50pm

Originally posted by sprites

Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start?

My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them.

Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless.

You are not wrong. After all Sakho is widely recognised by Palace fans as having been a very good defender and Wickham is still younger than the vast majority of our 1st team squad.

BUT can we realistically expect them to become injury free? I suppose we have to pass that one over to our medical people. How often can a player's body get injured and repaired and not become more susceptible to further injuries? I don't know. I'll leave that to fans with the medical knowledge. BUT, if there is hope for these two players and if we could retain them on some form of a pay as they play basis then I wouldn't rule that out.

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Casual Orpington 25 May 21 6.06pm
Originally posted by sprites Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start? My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them. Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless. A fit Sakho and Wickham, more change of Halley’s Comet landing in the holmesdale. I don’t think Wickham was ever premier league level, sakho I recognise the name, but couldn’t place him.
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Orpington 25 May 21 6.06pm

Originally posted by sprites

Um, yeah you can. You can offer your opinion in contrast to mine...that would be a start?

My argument is that a fit Sakho and Wickham would be like two decent new signings for free. And if we can secure them on some sort of pay as you play basis, it might be worth hanging onto them.

Not sure it’s that far fetched an idea...but would welcome your counter argument nonetheless.

A fit Sakho and Wickham, more change of Halley’s Comet landing in the holmesdale.
I don’t think Wickham was ever premier league level, sakho I recognise the name, but couldn’t place him.

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Elwissthebest Marlborough 25 May 21 10.02pm
Keep: Guaita, Butland, Tomkins, Ferguson (I suppose),Cahill (just: possible coaching role? Good influence), Mitchell. Eze, Townsend, Riedewald (I know), Schlupp, Milivojevic. Benteke. I'd be that radical. The rest aren't good enough for another season and I'd sell Zaha. There's enough experience here to bring in players from the U.23 and U.18. We'll never know if they're good enough unless they are given a chance. We need to bring in six more players, doubtless a couple on a 'free', get a couple of loans in (and please can they be players that the Manager actually believes in?) The objections to such a course are obvious, but we need a blood transfusion after this year's performance. Even though we finished comfortably ahead of the relegated sides, the writing's on the wall for next year. I am glad that Roy Hodgson has left but accept the argument that the present squad could only escape relegation with a manager such as he (risk limitation). Of course, as the Hibernian said, I wouldn't start from here. To have so many players out of contract doesn't suggest a well run club.
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Marlborough 25 May 21 10.02pm

Keep:
Guaita, Butland,
Tomkins, Ferguson (I suppose),Cahill (just: possible coaching role? Good influence), Mitchell.
Eze, Townsend, Riedewald (I know), Schlupp, Milivojevic.
Benteke.

I'd be that radical. The rest aren't good enough for another season and I'd sell Zaha. There's enough experience here to bring in players from the U.23 and U.18. We'll never know if they're good enough unless they are given a chance. We need to bring in six more players, doubtless a couple on a 'free', get a couple of loans in (and please can they be players that the Manager actually believes in?)
The objections to such a course are obvious, but we need a blood transfusion after this year's performance. Even though we finished comfortably ahead of the relegated sides, the writing's on the wall for next year. I am glad that Roy Hodgson has left but accept the argument that the present squad could only escape relegation with a manager such as he (risk limitation).
Of course, as the Hibernian said, I wouldn't start from here. To have so many players out of contract doesn't suggest a well run club.

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