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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 05 Jun 21 4.25pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I may be wrong but isn't Superman a fictional character from another galaxy, whereas Anne Boleyn was a real person? If so, then surely the former is "fair game' for interpretation whereas the latter isn't.

You are not wrong. What the black DC fans are upset with though is the lazy thought of 'we'll just make Kal El/Superman black so that'll make everything pc and everyone will be happy' rather than taking the time to pick one of the other Supermen who are black and putting the effort into making a film and giving them an identity and a back story.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 05 Jun 21 7.36pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

You are not wrong. What the black DC fans are upset with though is the lazy thought of 'we'll just make Kal El/Superman black so that'll make everything pc and everyone will be happy' rather than taking the time to pick one of the other Supermen who are black and putting the effort into making a film and giving them an identity and a back story.

Definitely a point worth highlighting in this case. At least you're approaching this is a real world manner, and offering this particular black perspective. Usually that would be intentionally omitted and we'd get a kind of 'the blacks are at it again' from those looking to further dubious and wayward identity politics of their own. Kudos to you for offering a fair minded take on the need for fleshed out characters rather than tokenism for the sake of it.


 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

People are being far too judgemental of this take. I for one always hoped to see a black lesbian Dalek in Doctor Who.

Whatever floats your boat

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Jun 21 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Definitely a point worth highlighting in this case. At least you're approaching this is a real world manner, and offering this particular black perspective. Usually that would be intentionally omitted and we'd get a kind of 'the blacks are at it again' from those looking to further dubious and wayward identity politics of their own. Kudos to you for offering a fair minded take on the need for fleshed out characters rather than tokenism for the sake of it.


I'm certainly no expert, but my son informs me that there is already a Black Superman in the DC Comics called Steel.
I don't know his story, but an existing Black version of Superman would be acceptable to most as long as it didn't replace the classic version.
My biggest reservation is that Henry Cavill made an excellent Superman, A hard task after Christopher Reeve made the role his own.

 

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You're all wrong Superman is an Indian

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One more point

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 05 Jun 21 9.58pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm certainly no expert, but my son informs me that there is already a Black Superman in the DC Comics called Steel.
I don't know his story, but an existing Black version of Superman would be acceptable to most as long as it didn't replace the classic version.
My biggest reservation is that Henry Cavill made an excellent Superman, A hard task after Christopher Reeve made the role his own.

Thanks for that, I didn't know the name of the character.
But that is the point in case. They could give Steel his own movie or even introduced him so he can work alongside Kal El.
Getting back to Henry Cavill. He has hit out at DC and Warner Bros and has unfollowed them on Twitter etc.
He's said to be one of the nicest people around but the way he has been treated has not been good at all so can't blame him really.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 05 Jun 21 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

Thanks for that, I didn't know the name of the character.
But that is the point in case. They could give Steel his own movie or even introduced him so he can work alongside Kal El.
Getting back to Henry Cavill. He has hit out at DC and Warner Bros and has unfollowed them on Twitter etc.
He's said to be one of the nicest people around but the way he has been treated has not been good at all so can't blame him really.

It does seem to be an unprofessional and weird way to treat him....on his birthday? That said, Hollywood is a nest of 'sell their own grandmother' degenerates smiling for the cameras.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm certainly no expert, but my son informs me that there is already a Black Superman in the DC Comics called Steel.
I don't know his story, but an existing Black version of Superman would be acceptable to most as long as it didn't replace the classic version.
My biggest reservation is that Henry Cavill made an excellent Superman, A hard task after Christopher Reeve made the role his own.

Yep, the best since Reeve.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm certainly no expert, but my son informs me that there is already a Black Superman in the DC Comics called Steel.
I don't know his story, but an existing Black version of Superman would be acceptable to most as long as it didn't replace the classic version.
My biggest reservation is that Henry Cavill made an excellent Superman, A hard task after Christopher Reeve made the role his own.

Totally agree with you there Hrolf on all points!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 06 Jun 21 11.17am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


i will accept a Black Anne Boleyn, Achilles, James Bond etc if we can also have a

- Chinese
- Polish
- Columbian

one. The BBC are racist in their multiculturalism.

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 06 Jun 21 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

sorry I thought that this program was on channel 5 not the BBC

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 06 Jun 21 1.19pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

sorry I thought that this program was on channel 5 not the BBC

Indeed. The great unwatched for the great unwashed.

 


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