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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jun 21 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Go anti-woke, go broke.

Maybe, maybe not but the on line criticism levelled at the Channel just supports their argument ie if your views donít conform to those on the left, you should not be broadcasting them. Do you believe in free speech Dan? I hope so, so why should this channel put forward a different point of view?

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 16 Jun 21 12.23pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

There are more restrictions in plenty of countries in Europe. Just not being reported on. Including here in Ireland. You are uninformed there. Perhaps that is the media's fault.

unreported? Not really, they're simply not happening on anywhere near the scale as seen in the UK that's why. Always blame 'the foreigner' for your own mistakes, nothing changes.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jun 21 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Leopards never change their spots. Rather than going with fashion or fads which come and go, I stick with facts and these never change.

So every Brexit voter is Xenophobic and racist in your opinion. Do you actually have actual facts to back this up? Would be interesting to see where these facts have been published. Presumably you have a link

 

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View stayloa's Profile stayloa Flag Beckenham 16 Jun 21 12.28pm Send a Private Message to stayloa Add stayloa as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

It is quite amusing reading Twitter and all the lefty wet wipes getting frothed up about this new channel how nasty it is blah blah blah. Here is a novel idea if it upsets you that much then don't watch it it's not like there is a shortage of channels and someone has a gun to your head saying you have to watch it.

All those moaning saying they hate it have been secretly watching it because they have nothing better to do than moan about this that or the other. The other side to it is that they are slating it without even watching it which is worse.

Full disclosure: I am a "lefty wet wipe" as you so nicely put it.

That said, I am all for freedom of speech. The line gets crossed surely when said speech is propagating hatred?

I haven't watched it and I don't intend to. As you say, I'm not being forced to.

What amuses me is the "right" (note the lack supporting adjective) feel mainstream media is too far left and the left feel the mainstream media is too far right.

If Laura on the BBC isn't pro-government which is the rightest we've had in a while then I'm completely lost...!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Jun 21 12.29pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So every Brexit voter is Xenophobic and racist in your opinion. Do you actually have actual facts to back this up? Would be interesting to see where these facts have been published. Presumably you have a link

The only link hes got is a link to a bulls*** generator. 3 phase.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Jun 21 12.29pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe, maybe not but the on line criticism levelled at the Channel just supports their argument ie if your views donít conform to those on the left, you should not be broadcasting them. Do you believe in free speech Dan? I hope so, so why should this channel put forward a different point of view?

Oh I don't really care what they do, as long as they're not broadcasting blatant untruths that lower the public discourse ever further. There were ugly scenes yesterday with a BBC journo getting all sorts of abuse from anti-vaxxers just because he was wearing a BBC lanyard. This is what happens when the anti-BBC narrative is pushed hard (not that this is GB News' fault).

I've actually got a lot of time for Andrew Neil as a broadcaster and journalist and think his principles should hopefully mean this won't be the case. But at the same time they are a commercial station who need viewers to stay afloat to maintain advertising revenues so they are going to need to rely on 'controversy' to drive traffic their way so hopefully this won't lead to standards slipping too far.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 16 Jun 21 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The only link hes got is a link to a bulls*** generator. 3 phase.


Oh look, pointless contribution as predicted. Resorting to expletives (now there's a complicated word for you) defines you.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Jun 21 12.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Oh look, pointless contribution as predicted. Resorting to expletives (now there's a complicated word for you) defines you.

That's actually a noun.
A generator of bulls***.
Not an expletive, one day you may grasp the language.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jun 21 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Oh I don't really care what they do, as long as they're not broadcasting blatant untruths that lower the public discourse ever further. There were ugly scenes yesterday with a BBC journo getting all sorts of abuse from anti-vaxxers just because he was wearing a BBC lanyard. This is what happens when the anti-BBC narrative is pushed hard (not that this is GB News' fault).

I've actually got a lot of time for Andrew Neil as a broadcaster and journalist and think his principles should hopefully mean this won't be the case. But at the same time they are a commercial station who need viewers to stay afloat to maintain advertising revenues so they are going to need to rely on 'controversy' to drive traffic their way so hopefully this won't lead to standards slipping too far.

I agree about Andrew Neil, on opening night he made a point of stressing they would not be hostile in their interviewing and would allow any guest to put their views forward, I hope so and believe this is the intention.
I have doubts they will survive, certainly they wont unless they iron out all the glitches.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jun 21 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa

Full disclosure: I am a "lefty wet wipe" as you so nicely put it.

That said, I am all for freedom of speech. The line gets crossed surely when said speech is propagating hatred?

I haven't watched it and I don't intend to. As you say, I'm not being forced to.

What amuses me is the "right" (note the lack supporting adjective) feel mainstream media is too far left and the left feel the mainstream media is too far right.

If Laura on the BBC isn't pro-government which is the rightest we've had in a while then I'm completely lost...!

You see I think Laura is anti- government, all a matter of opinions.
I have watched GB News a couple of time, although the lips and speech not being in sync caused me to give up, however I have never heard anything that could remotely be called hatred.

 

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Originally posted by Orange1290


Oh look, pointless contribution as predicted. Resorting to expletives (now there's a complicated word for you) defines you.

Predictable reply

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 16 Jun 21 1.12pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Facts no, opinions yes

Originally posted by Orange1290


Leopards never change their spots. Rather than going with fashion or fads which come and go, I stick with facts and these never change.

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

When conceited septuagenarians opine , best to ignore.

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