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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I think that it's you that read it the wrong way as it was as plain as day what tom was saying.

Only the mods will know whether someone reported it or whether they were moderating proactively but if anyone did report it, it won't be anything to do with race but solely because of the language that was used

Itís plainly obvious what he meant. Not that I took any offence or reported it. All I wanted was an apology for something that you quite easily proved I hadnít said.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Itís plainly obvious what he meant. Not that I took any offence or reported it. All I wanted was an apology for something that you quite easily proved I hadnít said.

Mmmmm...ok.

But did you apologise to me for saying on here multiple times that I was a member of PA?

If you want purity from others practice it yourself.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps we will see Tom at Comrades or maybe he's just tired of the old forum lark.

He would be very welcome I'm sure. Sometimes a change is as good as a rest.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmmm...ok.

But did you apologise to me for saying on here multiple times that I was a member of PA?

If you want purity from others practice it yourself.

I do apologise if I said you were a member and you are not. I do advise to stay away from them completely though

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Jul 21 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I do apologise if I said you were a member and you are not. I do advise to stay away from them completely though

Nope not a member, but I do buy their tea.

They really do make the most refreshing tea.....well, obviously they don't actually make it.

I tip my hat to your apology though....even though I didn't require it....it being more fun poking you over it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2021 10.15pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nope not a member, but I do buy their tea.

They really do make the most refreshing tea.....well, obviously they don't actually make it.

I tip my hat to your apology though....even though I didn't require it....it being more fun poking you over it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2021 10.15pm)

Haha I know, but would be rather hypocritical of me if I didnít

(And try Twinings next time - the preferred drop of the middle classes)

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Haha I know, but would be rather hypocritical of me if I didnít

(And try Twinings next time - the preferred drop of the middle classes)

I must admit, I do sometimes wonder what all those cinnamon and elderberry wots-it flavoured weird teas taste like.

But it would almost feel like betraying my flat cap.....If I brewed one up I'd have to take it off the stand and hide it in the cupboard.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I must admit, I do sometimes wonder what all those cinnamon and elderberry wots-it flavoured weird teas taste like.

But it would almost feel like betraying my flat cap.....If I brewed one up I'd have to take it off the stand and hide it in the cupboard.

My wife drinks all sorts of different herbal teas and can report they are all f*cking disgusting.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

My wife drinks all sorts of different herbal teas and can report they are all f*cking disgusting.

Still, she's keeping the faith.

The flavours are fascinating....if she finds something worth keeping down give us a shout and I'll take the plunge.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Still, she's keeping the faith.

The flavours are fascinating....if she finds something worth keeping down give us a shout and I'll take the plunge.

Camomile is good for a bed time drink helps you sleep. Lemon and Ginger during the day livens you up, Sage is a particular favourite.

I don't go for the berry teas. That said my personal favourite is still a builders tea.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 17 Jul 21 2.17am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst


A black guy being shut down by a white guy about racism. Tom lived it in his youth. How can a white guy question his integrity on the subject.

Since you said this it has rung true, but both in terms and Tom and madcap. It's half-hearted to herald a persons colour only when they're in total agreement with you. Madcap may have been provocative, but the 'by numbers' barreling in by several was unfortunate, and the idea that he was a 'racist' and everyone else contributing was fairminded was not based in reality or reason.

If anyone involved had displayed perspective in that conversation, it wouldn't have taken the turn it did. There's something to be said for truly engaging, rather than being 'in with the in crowd' even if there is a cost to opting out of it. Comfort is just that, and consideration and character inevitably take a back seat as result.

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Since you said this it has rung true, but both in terms and Tom and madcap. It's half-hearted to herald a persons colour only when they're in total agreement with you. Madcap may have been provocative, but the 'by numbers' barreling in by several was unfortunate, and the idea that he was a 'racist' and everyone else contributing was fairminded was not based in reality or reason.

If anyone involved had displayed perspective in that conversation, it wouldn't have taken the turn it did. There's something to be said for truly engaging, rather than being 'in with the in crowd' even if there is a cost to opting out of it. Comfort is just that, and consideration and character inevitably take a back seat as result.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Jul 2021 5.30am)

Agree with this. I read the last few pages of that thread and wish I hadnít. It appeared to simply be an argument between white men - telling everyone else (including black posters) what racism is or isnít, resorting to calling others racist if they didnít agree but without actually paying any attention or conceding to the perspective of others or of those that have actually lived it and experienced it.
Thereís little point in engaging in debate when the others mind is so closed they cannot concede fair points made or that their particular perspective may be slightly skewed in one or another area.
One of the biggest problems in society/politics, in my opinion, is that balance, consideration and logical compromise has been lost or discarded.

Edited by Helmet46 (17 Jul 2021 8.29am)

 

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