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The Beger Flag Croydon 24 Jul 21 11.24am

From the Telegraph:

Exclusive: Crystal Palace eye Lyon centre-back Joachim Andersen after impressive Fulham loan.

 

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Hudsoneagle Flag 24 Jul 21 11.36am

I’d be impressed if we get him in. With Marc.G being so young, Andersen has a good mix of youth and experience.

 
adelaar Flag Edgware 24 Jul 21 11.52am

I wrote on here over a month ago- if we sign Andersen and Pereira it would be a superb window. I haven't changed my mind.

 
The Beger Flag Croydon 24 Jul 21 12.15pm

Possible loan with option to buy.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jul 21 12.20pm

Clickbait still it's nice to know that West Ham fans are moaning that we have already signed 2 player they wanted and hopefully Andersen will make it a hat trick.

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Edited by Badger11 (24 Jul 2021 12.20pm)

 

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Putitout Flag Oxford 24 Jul 21 12.20pm

Originally posted by The Beger

Possible loan with option to buy.

That might be the case as, as much as he would be an asset I’m seriously wondering where all this money needed to replace the experience already out of the door is coming from.

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Jul 21 12.37pm

Originally posted by Putitout

That might be the case as, as much as he would be an asset I’m seriously wondering where all this money needed to replace the experience already out of the door is coming from.


The rumours that we have up to £80m to spend this window may not be far off. We've paid down the debts for previous purchases and it depends how the new deals we make are structured. It's unlikely to be a case of all the money up front.

As for Andersen, he'd take up a good chunk of what we have, possibly £25m plus. Not sure Lyon would go for a loan with buy option.

PV has said that he wants his teams to build from a strong defensive base and we certainly need another good CB. Andersen plus Tomkins and Guehi gives him that base and the option to play 3 at the back when he wants to use that formation, which he said on the Q & A video that he will be getting the squad to practice in pre-season.

Having said all that are Kabak and Nelsson still options?

 
Hudsoneagle Flag 24 Jul 21 1.33pm

I heard the budget was closer to 50m. But even so we’ve only spent half the supposed budget. I don’t know how Andersen can be going for as much as 25m. He isn’t wanted by his parent club and did OK last year but he didn’t keep Fulham up…it’s not like he stood out as world class. Parish said the market is depressed and that we would be taking advantage of that so we should be expecting lower fees than originally expected…not higher.

All depends on who we are competing with doesn’t it.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jul 21 1.39pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I heard the budget was closer to 50m. But even so we’ve only spent half the supposed budget. I don’t know how Andersen can be going for as much as 25m. He isn’t wanted by his parent club and did OK last year but he didn’t keep Fulham up…it’s not like he stood out as world class. Parish said the market is depressed and that we would be taking advantage of that so we should be expecting lower fees than originally expected…not higher.

All depends on who we are competing with doesn’t it.

The club never makes pronouncements about such budgets.
Just rampant speculation from various sources which many take as a pinch of salt.

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 24 Jul 21 1.51pm

Whatever the actual figure available,.it will need some very affordable well structured deals, simply because we have up to now allowed eight players, six of which played a part in recent seasons, another on loan, the other to sick to play, to leave the squad. On top of that , we have two what appear to be long term injuries ,to what should be considered important players.
We know only two well how difficult it has been to keep going at times with the squad numbers we had. So with only two meaningful additions, it would seem we have a few deals yet to do. That has to get harder all the time if we are going into the £20 mill plus league.
Andersen, is decent but if that fee is true can’t see it unless it’s spread pretty thin.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jul 21 1.53pm

Originally posted by Putitout

Whatever the actual figure available,.it will need some very affordable well structured deals, simply because we have up to now allowed eight players, six of which played a part in recent seasons, another on loan, the other to sick to play, to leave the squad. On top of that , we have two what appear to be long term injuries ,to what should be considered important players.
We know only two well how difficult it has been to keep going at times with the squad numbers we had. So with only two meaningful additions, it would seem we have a few deals yet to do. That has to get harder all the time if we are going into the £20 mill plus league.
Andersen, is decent but if that fee is true can’t see it unless it’s spread pretty thin.

I totally understand your sentiments.
I envisage some loan deals.

 
McGintus19 Flag 24 Jul 21 2.00pm

We're being strongly linked with Ozan Kabak too. I can't see us signing both especially as we signed Guehi. I would prefer Andersen i think.

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 24 Jul 21 2.11pm

Originally posted by Willo

I totally understand your sentiments.
I envisage some loan deals.

I think that should figure in how this shortage of bodies is dealt with.
It would be nice if they contained an option to buy at an established price. We seem interested in Gallagher, pity if it happened only to see him then sold to someone else for more money than we can afford.

 
Aray Flag South London 24 Jul 21 2.29pm

I think that we have identified several players for key positions, which explains why we have all these rumours. This limits the selling club’s ability to hold us to ransom. We will needed to bring in 2 CBs - we have one. I’m confident we will get the other - let’s just hope they gel…

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jul 21 2.30pm

Originally posted by Putitout

I think that should figure in how this shortage of bodies is dealt with.
It would be nice if they contained an option to buy at an established price. We seem interested in Gallagher, pity if it happened only to see him then sold to someone else for more money than we can afford.

I do have a concern that we have lost a great deal of experience and their know-how was pivotal in ensuring we survived in the PL.

With the headlong rush to acquire young talented prospects there is always a danger that their lack of experience at top-level could prove somewhat costly unless we also bring in players who have ploughed their furrows in decent top flights.

We did need to reduce the age of the squad and the wage bill.It is a question of balance.


Edited by Willo (24 Jul 2021 2.32pm)

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Jul 21 3.59pm

Originally posted by Willo

I do have a concern that we have lost a great deal of experience and their know-how was pivotal in ensuring we survived in the PL.

With the headlong rush to acquire young talented prospects there is always a danger that their lack of experience at top-level could prove somewhat costly unless we also bring in players who have ploughed their furrows in decent top flights.

We did need to reduce the age of the squad and the wage bill.It is a question of balance.


Edited by Willo (24 Jul 2021 2.32pm)


Justin Hayward and John Lodge would no doubt agree with you Willo

At 25 Anderson is reasonably experienced and has had the best part of a season in the PL.

 
taylors lovechild Flag 24 Jul 21 5.18pm

Anderson really impressed me whenever I saw him play for Fulham, but 25m seems too much.

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Jul 21 5.26pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Anderson really impressed me whenever I saw him play for Fulham, but 25m seems too much.


I may be thinking of someone else at that price, although Transfermarkt have him valued at £20m.

 
Omph Flag Liverpool 24 Jul 21 6.13pm

It is a lot but again it could be a decent investment provided he stays injury free.

He's a leader - captained Fulham even though he was on loan. Crucially he falls in the age and experience bracket we need - there is just about no one in the mid twenties bracket. Riedewald is just about the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Looking forward we will need a few in that bracket going forward as we are still heavy in the late twenties brigade.

Would think 20 mill a fairer price and one I can see working out if we can swing it.

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Anderson really impressed me whenever I saw him play for Fulham, but 25m seems too much.

 
silvertop Flag Portishead 24 Jul 21 6.25pm

According to Wikipedia he already plays for us.

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