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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 22 Aug 21 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

As ever it will be the games against the teams in the list above that determines our fate. It may work in our favour that we play most of them in the second quarter of the season as hopefully we’ll be organised in the new PV style & have some more options available up-front. The last few seasons all three relegated teams have been a degree poorer than the rest and if we can’t manage at least 17th I’ll be surprised.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 22 Aug 21 3.45pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Hannes

Will be happy if half of them are below us!

I’ll be very happy if three of them are below us. We’ve got a long journey ahead

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 22 Aug 21 4.12pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

it's bad luck for Vieira that both Olise and Eze are unavailable, we are weak in too many areas to play a more possession-based game atm. I think the early signs are promising, I like the way he said the fans were 'the number one thing at this club', but we could have five points in November and it might take some time for any returnees and new players to gel. I'm very hopeful but we have to be prepared for hanging round the drop zone till December - I don't think it will be one of those seasons like the last one when we're never below 15th but we'll be around that or above come May.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 22 Aug 21 5.52pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I’ll be very happy if three of them are below us. We’ve got a long journey ahead

It might find up a while to find our feet, but with a more positive approach and younger side I can see us growing into the league as the season goes on. Not that I'm expecting miracles, but I can't see us getting relegated.

Famous last words?

 

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View lush1076's Profile lush1076 Flag leatherhead 22 Aug 21 6.45pm Send a Private Message to lush1076 Add lush1076 as a friend

Even if we do get relegated, I feel we are in a much better position now to bounce back straight away. If we went down last year or the previous it would of been much harder work.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Aug 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

We could take a leaf out of Rafa's book.

Hired a couple of PL experienced performers, Andros and Gray, they are paying him back straight away.

Quality replacements for Andros and Bats, a midfield general, a full-back.

I can dream.

 

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View m/k mick's Profile m/k mick Flag milton keynes 22 Aug 21 6.52pm Send a Private Message to m/k mick Add m/k mick as a friend

Till they get 40 points everyone is in a relegation battle

 

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View inflikted's Profile inflikted Flag 22 Aug 21 7.24pm Send a Private Message to inflikted Add inflikted as a friend

At least he's off to a better start than de Boer

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 22 Aug 21 7.33pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by inflikted

At least he's off to a better start than de Boer

...and Roy Hodgson who lost his 1st 4 games....

 


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View Elwissthebest's Profile Elwissthebest Flag Marlborough 22 Aug 21 8.31pm Send a Private Message to Elwissthebest Add Elwissthebest as a friend

Certainly we could be relegated. The good news is that this applies to probably eight other teams. We only need three teams to garner fewer points than us to stay up, if you'll pardon the b....... obvious.
The big positive is that we have a manager who wants to engender a winning mindset. This business of changing expectations in professional sportsmen is complex and interesting. How far you can change the attitude of those players you inherit is arguable. You can bring in winners (Cahill! Schlupp!: well; sort of) or you can bring in youngsters you hope you can turn into winners. And that's what we've done. The concern is that to heap expectation on: Gallagher, Olise, Eze, Andersen, Guehi, who between them do not have great Premiership experience, is asking a lot. Half a new team, in fact. If they all start. How you fit in Eze and Olise I'd like to hear. The same player? Even without the injuries, it'll take a while for that new team to gel. The team we sent out against Brentford, e.g., had never played a competitive match together. Not ideal: we are still in a sense on pre-season.
To stay up, we need to win a minimum of ten games. Along the way we'll likely pick up another eight points from draws. Brentford is a decent unit, but if we can't beat teams like that at home, then where are those victories to come from?
We've weakness with both full backs: one should improve, the other will only continue to decline. The midfield is energetic, but lacks the sort of guile Cabaye, for example, brought to it. Kouyate and McArthur will give away plenty of fouls around the box and, as we saw against Chelsea, that gets punished at this level. Scoring goals is a long-term problem. Wilf looks disillusioned. We need to bring in a striker before this window closes. How hard did we try to sign Danny Ings? There's always someone 'in the know' on this site!
As for the business about hoping the likely defeats in the tough run of fixtures coming up will not affect morale, that's a hard one. Losing becomes a habit and if you've got six points from ten games, you've got problems.
I don't think we are relegation certainties, but it's possible. More so than last year?

 

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View radicalsteve's Profile radicalsteve Flag ottawa 23 Aug 21 2.15pm Send a Private Message to radicalsteve Add radicalsteve as a friend

Excellent summary Elwissthebest - it is way too early to judge a team in transition.

One of the more significant reasons for optimism is the new centre-back pairing, a very strong foundation which we have been missing for a while. If we can settle in two decent full backs as the season progresses we will have a solid, dependable defence.

Midfield is starting to gel, but not good enough yet as we cannot hold and distribute those killer passes, or run through the opposition.

Biggest problem is the lack of goalscoring talent upfront, not getting either enough balls or players running into the box: Eze's return will make a difference as will Olise we hope. If we don't sort out increasing the number of goalscoring chances, I fear we will be struggling come January, and then it might come down to whether the team can play with enough grit and determination to get the points in the bag. Wilf remains a wild card, hopefully he can be an impact player, but we can't rely on him anymore to bail us out.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Aug 21 6.35pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

we could be in the cut & thrust of a relegation dogfight or not.

we could be nailed to the bottom of the table and a dozen points adrift of the pace.

stranger things have happened

 


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