I wonder if Wilf's rage is largely directed at himself. He had his big move and, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. If you compare what he was like ten years ago, the joy in his game (just watch re-runs of the play-off semi and final, there is none of that now. I wonder if he is raging against the 'dying of the light', deep down he knows he isn't the player he was and he hates it.

I hope Vieira and Roberts can sort his head out because, if they can, he can still be a big player for us but I fear we may never see the 'old' Wilf again.

Edited by dg1937 (21 Aug 2021 11.09pm)

Totally agree with the majority of posters who deplored Wilfs attitude and lack of involvement. Find it more difficult to agree with the continual moan that Ward and Mitchell are ineffective, the back line was solid today, far more so than when we had Tomkins/Cahill/Kouyate and Ward and Mitchell were regularly in the final third of the pitch. Conor looks a breath of fresh air and I would have prefered to see Rak-Sakyi replace Schlupp. Just a bit of a pity that the game only lasted 75 minutes if you take off all the time the players in yellow spent laying on the ground.
Last game on MoD again, if we were the only game in town we would still be the last game shown, not the first!!

I think we have to be realistic, this is a team in transition ... with only three new players on the pitch, all of whom did a better job than the players that they replaced from last season's team.

Bekkers was poor, Kouyate was a liability, Ward can't operate as a wing back and Schlupp was unable to create anything for the team. IMHO, PV should sub Wilf if he has another game like to today and then either he continues to throw his toys out of the pram, or he smartens up. PV needs to show who is in charge and make tough calls, even though it might hurt in the short term, in the long run it sets the tone for the whole of the team. AND I was completely unimpressed with Benteke throwing his hands up all the time insinuating that his team members were at fault. He was like a cart horse today, no speed, no running off the ball in to space and just wanting the ball on a silver platter - oh and by the way when he got a great cross on to his head, he put it way over the bar. I rest my case!

Edited by radicalsteve (22 Aug 2021 4.45am)

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If Vieira isn't smart enough to realise Ward is a League 1 quality right back and gets rinsed by anyone with any ability and doesn't sign a right back by the end of the transfer window he should be sacked.

We've needed a right back for 3 seasons. It's insane how we've still not bought one (Clyne is a backup and Ferguson has not played since Vieira was playing).

I thought Ward was excellent today. We’re you watching the same fame?...

Is the correct answer. No excuses for his display today and the petulance will never leave. However all the times teams are allowed to double/triple up on him, he won’t do much.

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If Vieira isn't smart enough to realise Ward is a League 1 quality right back and gets rinsed by anyone with any ability and doesn't sign a right back by the end of the transfer window he should be sacked.

We've needed a right back for 3 seasons. It's insane how we've still not bought one (Clyne is a backup and Ferguson has not played since Vieira was playing).

Perhaps PV is smart enough but who do you suggest he plays instead? Clyne has COVID and no academy players are good enough. Can’t blame PV for who he has available to pick from