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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 12 Sep 21 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

He was just defending his team and club like any good captain would, at least they didn't all surround the ref like the good old days, thought considering how frustrated he was he held his behaviour excellently.

I also noticed that when Wilf was trying his best to gob off till he got a red card, it was the England captain, rather than our own, who was there to calm him down.

It's not the first time I've noticed that our own players seem to let him go off like a loose cannon. I might be getting my memories confused, but I recall that when he got the red vs Southampton, only Ayew was on hand to pacify. Everyone else just let him explode, with that knowing look to one another that he was 'going off again.'

Is he untouchable within the squad or just unapproachable when in one of his petulant moods?

It bugs me not just for the fact that he has no control over his emotions, but also that no one seems willing to confront him about it.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 12 Sep 21 5.46pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

I also noticed that when Wilf was trying his best to gob off till he got a red card, it was the England captain, rather than our own, who was there to calm him down.

It's not the first time I've noticed that our own players seem to let him go off like a loose cannon. I might be getting my memories confused, but I recall that when he got the red vs Southampton, only Ayew was on hand to pacify. Everyone else just let him explode, with that knowing look to one another that he was 'going off again.'

Is he untouchable within the squad or just unapproachable when in one of his petulant moods?

It bugs me not just for the fact that he has no control over his emotions, but also that no one seems willing to confront him about it.

Perhaps his team mates don't want Zaha calm and composed? Perhaps they see the difference it makes when the opposition get him riled and don't want to spoil it?! Personally I love it when the opposition get in his face and wake him up a bit.

Yesterday it was brilliant to see him running at defenders, powering forward when released rather than cutting back and killing the momentum of the attack. He was doing it before Tanganga body checked him so the rough treatment can't take all the credit, but he seemed to go up a gear after.

I also think it'll be especially good for him that referees are under orders to give less soft free kicks. He, like many attacking players, had become overly focused on drawing fouls and if he knows he won't get them he'll focus on beating the defender instead.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Sep 21 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

He was just defending his team and club like any good captain would, at least they didn't all surround the ref like the good old days, thought considering how frustrated he was he held his behaviour excellently.

He wasn’t captain, Lloris was. No way could Kane have seen anything of the incident, unless he has x-ray vision and can see through human forms. I thought he constant bickering to the ref was a dusgrace

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 12 Sep 21 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Perhaps his team mates don't want Zaha calm and composed? Perhaps they see the difference it makes when the opposition get him riled and don't want to spoil it?! Personally I love it when the opposition get in his face and wake him up a bit.

Yesterday it was brilliant to see him running at defenders, powering forward when released rather than cutting back and killing the momentum of the attack. He was doing it before Tanganga body checked him so the rough treatment can't take all the credit, but he seemed to go up a gear after.

I also think it'll be especially good for him that referees are under orders to give less soft free kicks. He, like many attacking players, had become overly focused on drawing fouls and if he knows he won't get them he'll focus on beating the defender instead.

He was outstanding yesterday, Spurs new signing from Barcelona, Royal got turned inside out and must have wondered what it was all about. We all know he is a hot head, but my god how many times does he get fouled during a game.

 

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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 12 Sep 21 6.18pm Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Originally posted by highbury eagle

I like the fact that their solution is to simply buy Edouard and Gallagher.

Edited by highbury eagle (12 Sep 2021 5.17pm)

Yes, wonderful stuff, I loved it. Especially their limited and repetitive vocabulary. They use the c-word and the f-word most of all.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 12 Sep 21 6.21pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Please may we stop saying the Wilf was "body-checked"? He was pushed over with both hands (one of which was high) at the point of leaving the opposing player in his wake. That was effectively a rugby tackle and in my view it merited a straight red.

As I said a few pages back, if it merited a yellow, the player therefore went unpunished for the fisticuffs with Wilf that ensued. Our mate A Shearer later made the same observation on MoTD.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 12 Sep 21 6.22pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by peterg

Yes, wonderful stuff, I loved it. Especially their limited and repetitive vocabulary. They use the c-word and the f-word most of all.

To be fair, we do have our own Cucking Funt.

 


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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 12 Sep 21 7.01pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Please may we stop saying the Wilf was "body-checked"? He was pushed over with both hands (one of which was high) at the point of leaving the opposing player in his wake. That was effectively a rugby tackle and in my view it merited a straight red.

As I said a few pages back, if it merited a yellow, the player therefore went unpunished for the fisticuffs with Wilf that ensued. Our mate A Shearer later made the same observation on MoTD.

Absolutely. We might say that he struck Wilf with both hands when making his lunge and that, in itself, was red-worthy.

Edited by Glazier#1 (12 Sep 2021 7.02pm)

 

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View Therealeaglestilidie's Profile Therealeaglestilidie Flag 12 Sep 21 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Therealeaglestilidie Add Therealeaglestilidie as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Absolutely. We might say that he struck Wilf with both hands when making his lunge and that, in itself, was red-worthy.

Edited by Glazier#1 (12 Sep 2021 7.02pm)

It was an assault and should have been a straight red.

 


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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 12 Sep 21 7.39pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Please may we stop saying the Wilf was "body-checked"? He was pushed over with both hands (one of which was high) at the point of leaving the opposing player in his wake. That was effectively a rugby tackle and in my view it merited a straight red.

As I said a few pages back, if it merited a yellow, the player therefore went unpunished for the fisticuffs with Wilf that ensued. Our mate A Shearer later made the same observation on MoTD.

This use of the hands in the game is beginning to border on ridiculous . In this case it was a two handed assault to the head, both hands delivered with force to Wilfs mouth, chin, and throat area.
In rugby you can not do that in a deliberate way. It would not qualify as a tackle in the first place, and a tackle can not be delivered to the head anyway. The Spurs ,player would have gone off in Rugby,
If football was not losing its way ,he should have gone there and then. As for Wilfs reaction, on this occasion anyone of spirit would have reacted . A lot of continental pro,s would have stayed down and highlighted what had actually happened to them.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 12 Sep 21 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Did anyone notice the runs Andersen made during the game into the oppositions half yesterday? I was used to a rigid back four under Roy, but this gives us a more attacking threat.

Also Mitchell is looking a lot more settled going forward.


 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 12 Sep 21 9.24pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Please may we stop saying the Wilf was "body-checked"? He was pushed over with both hands (one of which was high) at the point of leaving the opposing player in his wake. That was effectively a rugby tackle and in my view it merited a straight red.

My instinct was similar initially, but then I concluded otherwise. For me, once a defender realises that he can't stop the attacker lawfully and has to take a yellow for the team, I'd far rather that he pushes the attacker over with both hands than lunges in with his feet to stop him. The former can knock a man over and wind him, but is unlikely to cause damage. The latter can break a leg, especially when the defender is facing straight on to a fast moving forward, as Tanganga was with Wilf yesterday.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (12 Sep 2021 9.26pm)

 

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