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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Sep 21 10.27pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Starmer was too weak to purge the Corbynistas from the Shadow Cabinet and now reaping the harvest.

Embarrassing and discommodius for the LOHMO

 


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jeeagles Flag 27 Sep 21 11.20pm

Not sure to be honest with you.

Mcdonald, for most people is a nobody. Quitting citing the division in the Labour Party is disingenuous. Seems like the Labour Party is starting move away from appeasing the looney left, and he's thrown his toys out the pram. Calling it a divide is akin to people far to the right claiming there is a "Culture War" after they realise they will never get their way.

Reeves speech was a move back to the centre.

Rayner was in the pub watching the Arsenal game with Starmer and Corbyn on Sunday with photographers on hand to share the pre-planned moment of unity. Wouldn't be surprised is someone for the centre of the parter tipped the press off about her having a couple too many and being in a mood to say something stupid. Making her less credible for major roles.

Either way, opposition party's generally stay pretty quiet until a couple of years before a GE.

 

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Fair points. Reeves' speech including the emphasis that if in power she and the leadership would make " tough decisions " is basically saying they would do a Labour version of " austerity ".

In reality, opposition parties can and frequently do promise anything in non election years.

McDonald has successfully turned the story of the conference yesterday to divided labour and away from other speeches.

It's the same old gang, McDonnell, RLB causing trouble. Where's Burgon. Most pathetic on camera appearance yesterday was the odious Thornberry.

 


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Reeve's speech yesterday was a typical left wing Chancellor's speech - full of great stuff with no ideas of how to pay for it.
We probably all want what she wants (within reason) and that includes the Tories but unfortunately the real world isn't like that.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Reeve's speech yesterday was a typical left wing Chancellor's speech - full of great stuff with no ideas of how to pay for it.
We probably all want what she wants (within reason) and that includes the Tories but unfortunately the real world isn't like that.

Whereas the Tory Chancellor has not been spending money like a drunken sailor for the last 18 months?

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 28 Sep 21 7.48am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Agreed - but somewhat unusual circumstances.
I am not sure that the Left will ever want to recognise what a socialist Chancellor we have right now.
The Public Sector - bar the obvious - are still on holiday and until someone says so will still be paid 100% of their money - unlike the private sector - whilst still "working" from home.
My local council office in the heart of Tory land still has its doors shut to the public and the car park is empty and I know for a fact that many of them are unable to work properly from home.
A bit of a joke actually and all under a Tory government.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Agreed - but somewhat unusual circumstances.
I am not sure that the Left will ever want to recognise what a socialist Chancellor we have right now.
The Public Sector - bar the obvious - are still on holiday and until someone says so will still be paid 100% of their money - unlike the private sector - whilst still "working" from home.
My local council office in the heart of Tory land still has its doors shut to the public and the car park is empty and I know for a fact that many of them are unable to work properly from home.
A bit of a joke actually and all under a Tory government.

It's funny as a Tory I think that Boris is heading a Blairite government and yet the Labour supporters on here think he is somewhat to the right of Atilla The Hun.

I would like to hear more about Labour's proposal for abolishing business rates. This tax needs to be reformed or abolished but how do you replace the taxes.

Making Google and Amazon pay more will not even make a dent in the overall tax loss besides it is never a good idea to base your tax on a handful of companies what happens if they go broke? (they should pay more of course).

 


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Labour are far too busy fighting themselves, to worry about small matters like being a viable opposition.

 


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jeeagles Flag 28 Sep 21 12.56pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Fair points. Reeves' speech including the emphasis that if in power she and the leadership would make " tough decisions " is basically saying they would do a Labour version of " austerity ".

In reality, opposition parties can and frequently do promise anything in non election years.

McDonald has successfully turned the story of the conference yesterday to divided labour and away from other speeches.

It's the same old gang, McDonnell, RLB causing trouble. Where's Burgon. Most pathetic on camera appearance yesterday was the odious Thornberry.

Seems like they are being giving enough rope to hang themselves.

The likes of Campbell and Mandelson seem to be back on the seen too. The Corbynista 's are unbelievably poor political operators and easy to predict. Whilst the aging new Labour Crowds are experts this game. Whilst the centre of the party is announcing reasonable policies, they are happy for the left to keep being showing themselves up.

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

Whereas the Tory Chancellor has not been spending money like a drunken sailor for the last 18 months?

As Thatcher said, 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'...and that was back in the day when people actually cared about squaring budgets.

Apparently the never ending money printing can just go on and on and on.....and the repayment and interest is never going to rise.

And pink elephants can happily fly over Selhurst as we win the Champion's league.

Are the current Tory's socialists? No, but when you look at the economy....what difference does it really make?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2021 1.06pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As Thatcher said, 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'...and that was back in the day when people actually cared about squaring budgets.

Apparently the never ending money printing can just go on and on and on.....and the repayment and interest is never going to rise.

And pink elephants can happily fly over Selhurst as we win the Champion's league.

Are the current Tory's socialists? No, but when you look at the economy....what difference does it really make?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2021 1.06pm)

Andy who? I've never heard of him,a nobody courting a little publicity.

 

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Originally posted by beak

Andy who? I've never heard of him,a nobody courting a little publicity.

Quite probably, was a new one on me.

 


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