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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 21 Oct 21 11.32am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by crystal-purley

Seconded. We regularly have foxes in our garden and they keep the rat population down, although people who leave shoes etc in their garden would disagree.

Don't leave shoes in your garden! . Foxes only breed in the correct amount for the area they live in unlike cockroaches,mice etc who continue to breed and are only limited by the food supply.I fed my foxes during lockdown and it was far better watching them than the cr*p on t.v.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 11.35am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by beak

Don't leave shoes in your garden! . Foxes only breed in the correct amount for the area they live in unlike cockroaches,mice etc who continue to breed and are only limited by the food supply.I fed my foxes during lockdown and it was far better watching them than the cr*p on t.v.

 

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 21 Oct 21 11.37am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

I've got a mate who witnessed a fox kill his cherished long-eared rabbit in front of him. He's not a vengeful sort of bloke, but he really took against this fox and vowed retribution.

Cutting a long story short, he borrowed a gun and some night goggles and was ready for said fox next time he heard it visit his garden. Sure enough, he heard movement one night and burst through his patio doors wearing nothing but his night goggles and brandishing his gun ready to shoot.

A terrified voice came out of the darkness. "Don't shoot. Please don't shoot." Apparently some bloke had been taken short coming home from the pub and was relieving himself against my mate's wall.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 11.46am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

I've got a mate who witnessed a fox kill his cherished long-eared rabbit in front of him. He's not a vengeful sort of bloke, but he really took against this fox and vowed retribution.

Cutting a long story short, he borrowed a gun and some night goggles and was ready for said fox next time he heard it visit his garden. Sure enough, he heard movement one night and burst through his patio doors wearing nothing but his night goggles and brandishing his gun ready to shoot.

A terrified voice came out of the darkness. "Don't shoot. Please don't shoot." Apparently some bloke had been taken short coming home from the pub and was relieving himself against my mate's wall.

Ironically someone pointing a gun at me probably would make me piss myself.

 

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Originally posted by Matov


Foxes are classed as vermin. They need culling. If people enjoy doing that, why is it such an issue?

Not my cup of tea personally but if we allow people to fish for pleasure, why is killing vermin such an important issue? If you don't like people killing other creatures for sport then ban all of them. Grouse shooting, Deer stalking, fishing and so on.


Would you like to be ripped apart by dogs?

Foxes inflict this kind of death on prey regularly, of course. Many a pet bunny or chicken has met such a fate. The difference is that, as humans, we understand suffering and
therefore, one has to wonder about the mentality of someone who takes pleasure in inflicting such suffering. Labelling a mammal as vermin hardly changes the reality.

Being sadistic is one of the worst traits someone can have, I would say.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Oct 21 1.01pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Foxes are classed as vermin. They need culling. If people enjoy doing that, why is it such an issue?

Not my cup of tea personally but if we allow people to fish for pleasure, why is killing vermin such an important issue? If you don't like people killing other creatures for sport then ban all of them. Grouse shooting, Deer stalking, fishing and so on.

Are you sure?

Even if it's true that they need culling, there must be a better way to do it than setting 15 dogs on it. The deer in lots of parks are culled every year but not by chasing them with dogs.

 


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.21pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


Foxes are classed as vermin. They need culling. If people enjoy doing that, why is it such an issue?

Not my cup of tea personally but if we allow people to fish for pleasure, why is killing vermin such an important issue? If you don't like people killing other creatures for sport then ban all of them. Grouse shooting, Deer stalking, fishing and so on.



I was pleasantly surprised that a few people I routinely disagree with here display such kindness when it comes to being averse to animals getting ripped to pieces while in a state of terror. It appears that unfortunately even on this you're nonplussed!

Just because you use the word 'vermin' to describe them it doesn't change the fact that people are getting off on extreme cruelty to animals as sport. You wouldn't want some sadist doing that to your pet dog or cat, so maybe consider that it's not much different when it happens to a fox.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 21 Oct 21 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Late stage abortion involves the ripping apart of limbs....and that's from unborn humans and approved of by the state....Personally I regard it as abhorrent and an unforgiveable practice.

Foxes rip apart their prey and dogs would rip them apart in the wild. That's nature....That doesn't mean I support it as sport to provide pleasure.

One involves humans and the other animals whose are expressly designed to eat smaller animals.....so in affect are carrying out their purpose.

As something that concerns me it's pretty low in importance, however I think if I were pushed to give an opinion I'd say that I'm not a fan of fox hunting but that it's not a hill I'd die on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 1.42pm)

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.53pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Late stage abortion involves the ripping apart of limbs....and that's from unborn humans and approved of by the state....Personally I regard it as abhorrent and an unforgiveable practice.

Foxes rip apart their prey and dogs would rip them apart in the wild. That's nature....That doesn't mean I support it as sport to provide pleasure.

One involves humans and the other animals whose are expressly designed to eat smaller animals.....so in affect are carrying out their purpose.

As something that concerns me it's pretty low in importance, however I think if I were pushed to give an opinion I'd say that I'm not a fan of fox hunting but that it's not a hill I'd die on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 1.42pm)

I think it would be fair, based on science, to say that if an unborn baby is able to feel pain, abortion should be illegal (except for exceptional circumstances). I believe that is at 20 weeks and view any later abortions than that as more convenience for the parent than concern for the baby. Out of sight out or mind.

Also, while our limit of 24 weeks is beyond this point, it is also worth noting that it is perfectly legal in this country to abort Down's Syndrome babies UP UNTIL BIRTH!

Edited by BlueJay (21 Oct 2021 1.54pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 21 Oct 21 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I think it would be fair, based on science, to say that if an unborn baby is able to feel pain, abortion should be illegal (except for exceptional circumstances). I believe that is at 20 weeks and view any later abortions than that as more convenience for the parent than concern for the baby. Out of sight out or mind.

Also, while our limit of 24 weeks is beyond this point, it is also worth noting that it is perfectly legal in this country to abort Down's Syndrome babies UP UNTIL BIRTH!

Edited by BlueJay (21 Oct 2021 1.54pm)

Well personally none of it gets my sanction.

It's even more incredible that the state would sanction up until birth...Down's syndrome or anything else.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 2.08pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well personally none of it gets my sanction.

It's even more incredible that the state would sanction up until birth...Down's syndrome or anything else.

I confess I didn't even realise until recently when a Down Syndrome woman tried to get the law changed and lost [Link]

The reasoning appeared to be that because sometimes it's difficult to tell if a child has Downs until after 24 weeks, such decisions are an exception to the rule. A sad day for her no doubt, as realistically it's not that far removed from an argument that says it's fine to abort her life now!

 

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Originally posted by beak

Don't leave shoes in your garden! . Foxes only breed in the correct amount for the area they live in unlike cockroaches,mice etc who continue to breed and are only limited by the food supply.I fed my foxes during lockdown and it was far better watching them than the cr*p on t.v.

We are still feeding a family of foxes, they seem to lay in wait for the left over cat food.
Have always hated fox hunting, it is barbaric. The quote from the convicted huntsman “ we do it for the welfare of the foxes” must be one of the most ridiculous statement ever made

 

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