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View westquay's Profile westquay Flag 58 miles from se25 24 Oct 21 11.11am Send a Private Message to westquay Add westquay as a friend

The HF were spot on with their banner and it simply told the truth about a disgusting regime where Bigotry, Religious bigotry, slavery and state murder are just an every day occurrence ..
At least the HF have the bollocks (which of course would be severed in Saudi for such an act) to put their often correct ideas out there..
So why on earth is this even being investigated by Croydons finest (Pah) as ffs it showed nothing racist or bigoted or anything of the sort..
If anybody should be foolishly prosecuted for this then i would be more than happy to contribute a go fund me campaign and I reckon input would come from fans all over the country..
The thing I have found most surprising is this...
I looked on North stand chat expecting to see Palace fans being slated again by the seaweed but happily and to my surprise they support the Natics and some are even talking about helping fund defence for anybody prosecuted...
Time this country stepped up and broke all ties with the murderous vicious place ( I mean Saudi not brighton, although? No sorry) and its support for the war in Yemen and its absolute disregard for life...
I forgot to mention that fans from other clubs want to use the banner too... Maybe it should be sent on tour...

Edited by westquay (24 Oct 2021 11.16am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Oct 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It doesn't really matter what fans think.

This is about power and money....all the buzzwords are for all the gullible who believe them. When anything important is threatened, they go out the window.

 


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View dg1937's Profile dg1937 Flag 24 Oct 21 11.17am Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

I'm glad the police are 'investigating', the fact they are doing so has attracted far more publicity than the original banner ever would have done. There will be more publicity when the police decide (no doubt without any fanfare) not to take any action. In the very unlikely event they decide there is a case to answer, all hell will break loose. Whoever lodged a complaint really didn't think it through.

 

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View EaglesEaglesEagles's Profile EaglesEaglesEagles Flag 24 Oct 21 11.18am Send a Private Message to EaglesEaglesEagles Add EaglesEaglesEagles as a friend

I think Newcastle's takeover has revealed the extent to which ethics no longer matter.

The best thing the fanatics can do is to raise a universal banner at every home game for every other club whose owners have known dodgy backgrounds: Chelsea, Manchester City, Wolves, are there any others? There isn't too much between City and Saudi's owners in my view, both very bad. As for Abramovich, his fortune was made off the backs of starving Russians in the Post-Soviet era.

Criticise Richard Masters, make the general point about human rights and state that it's gone too far. Perhaps we could have a banner like this at every game.

The Mags are right in that I can't remember us making the point before for the other clubs. In one of those comments on their article about the banner a Newcastle fan mentioned the recent blocking vote against interested sponsors. We were more than happy to cash in with the new FaceBank investor but are blocking any future moves. This is wholly hypocritical, the move has just been made to slow Newcastle down.

The best thing we can do now is to respond by taking a consistent moral high ground. It seems holier than thou, but it might make other fans do the same and it makes logical sense.

 


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View berlinpalace's Profile berlinpalace Flag berlin 24 Oct 21 11.32am Send a Private Message to berlinpalace Add berlinpalace as a friend

Yes itís true that other clubs have s***ty owners as well and itís true that there shouldíve been protests earlier but here we are and better late than never. Maybe the idiot that made the Ďracistí complaint has kicked off something bigger...

And itís not a penguin, itís clearly an obese magpie with its belly hanging down over its knees, like any true geordie.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Oct 21 11.34am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Zaha127

Although it is true what the banner says one issue I have with it is tribalism. If Palace were taken over by a Saudi billionaire the majority of Palace fans would be like any other football fan accept it because it would ensure Palace become a European side within the next 3 to 5 years. Top 10 is a dream and that looks unlikely this season. It is hypocritical to have a banner when if the opposite happened most Palace fans like any other football fan base would welcome it cause most fans care more about success than their owners.

Plus if the PL did not accept it would have been hypocritical. You have Man City owned by a state effectively. Chelsea owned by a Russian owner. If you say no to Newcastle there is a double standards. There has also been allegations of corruption against the Chelsea owner, Man City and nearly every rich owner. Most rich owners have allegations of corruption against them many of them are true Newcastle are no different. Money has taken over football a long time ago. Most owners see clubs as businesses. Abramovich didn't take over Chelsea cause of the location of course it was due to profitability. Same with City, PSG and any other football club.

Edited by Zaha127 (24 Oct 2021 6.49am)

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Oct 21 11.46am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I'm genuinely really angry that we are being investigated for that banner. How about our police investigate, for instance, if a football club has been taken over by a murderer? Or any one of a number of serious crimes that haven't been solved.
All of the points about the Saudi owners are true, so not racist. The caricature was also a genuine likeness and can't be considered racist.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 24 Oct 21 11.53am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Shearer is hardly just a fan. The bloke in the street just wants his football club to win.

I do agree that there is massive hypocrisy among the hand ringers and virtue signallers in the media. They are very selective about their virtue.
That said, those that say they would walk away if it happened at Palace really must take themselves and their virtue very seriously. Personally, I would like to see us win something before I die. The Saudi government is for others to worry about. What I think about them is of little consequence.

I disagree with your trophy at all cost statement, i am sure many owners have murky pasts, but no other one, to my knowledge, has admitted freely to Murder

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Oct 21 11.59am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

To those of you that think that Politics should not be involved in Sport, I agree.

But in truth the EPL is all about business / money. Morals and ethics take a back seat. It's ceased to be about Sport if indeed it ever was.

The EPL is awash with dirty money - Abramovich, the Chinese etc etc. So we shouldn't be surprised that suddenly the Newcastle takeover was sanctioned after previously being rejected.

You have to wonder why a woman ( Staveley ) and a Jew ( Reuben ) would wish to be part of an alliance with PIF.

As for the Police investigation into the HOF banner, whatever happened to Freedom of Expression in this country ? Or is the aim to turn the UK into a State where that is forbidden ? Like it is in.....Saudi Arabia

Edited by NEILLO (24 Oct 2021 12.00pm)

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 24 Oct 21 12.09pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

Typical Croydon Met Police, totally inept. Satirical cartoons are part of British culture since the 17th Century

Imagine the problems the Met would have if Charlie Hebdu was published in Croydon.

Private Eye used to run cartoons that poked fun at the burka. Burka-clad figures as ten-pins, that sort of thing. Fair game in my opinion. Now, however, I suspect Ian Hislop would happily perpetuate the 'Boris is racist' agenda based on a joke he once made about the inability to identify those wearing the burka, conveniently forgetting his own editorial past.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 24 Oct 21 12.27pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Well done the HF, fully support them on this. Views I have seen from most of the PL fans is overwhelmingly in support.

Someone has complained to the Old Bill, so they have to investigate but I can't see if coming to anything.

 


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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 24 Oct 21 12.37pm Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Brilliant banner. By a lovely coincidence, I discussed this very issue with someone I met by chance while having a pre-match pint at the South Norwood craft beer bar. We soon found that we shared the same view on the takeover.
I also liked that a group of friendly Toons were knocking back lagers in said bar. I've always found you can josh with them a bit. No animosity, unlike supporters of some other teams we could mention.

 


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