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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 Oct 21 8.32am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The International Climate meeting still a few days away (Glasgow ,31 October - 12 November 2021), but the build-up has begun.
Road closures, to allow safe passage for delegates and people on the fringes getting their kicks in early.

Greta said COP26 would just be 'Blah Blah Blah'
Tony Blair just been on TV this morning, saying Greta trots out her own version of Blah Blah Blah. Blair just high-lighted the disparity between developed countries making progress and the developing countries being more polluting than ever.

Two topics immediately came to mind for me.
1. The air industry has taken a battering from Covid. How can you encourage an industry which so heavily pollutes, when there are not really any viable alternatives ?


2. Natural resources like the South American rain forests. How to protect these resources, whilst defending a Governments rights to exploit them ?


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 24 Oct 21 8.36am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

The planet will be fine but the human and many other species are f*cked already. Like Palace in the top flight, you may as well enjoy it while you can.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 Oct 21 8.37am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

And at Local level Croydon Council see the Environment as an opportunity to swell the bank balance.

"A council declared bankrupt a year ago fears it will lose millions of pounds if motorists “wise up” about where they will be fined when driving in low traffic neighbourhoods.

Croydon Council expects to make £11.8 million over the next three years from fixed penalty notice fines issued by automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) cameras catching those driving through roads recently closed to traffic.

The South London borough has been awarded £975,000 to create seven low traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) after Grant Shapps, the Transport Secretary, introduced his “green transport revolution” last May to promote walking and cycling.

However, opponents say the schemes are being used as a “cash cow”.

'Risk of compliance'
At a recent council meeting, Steve Iles, Croydon’s director of public realm, said £11.8 million of “income growth particularly from camera enforcement” had been “built in” to its three-year budget forecast.

But Councillor Robert Canning expressed concern that the cash injection could be lost if motorists obey the rules.

He said: "Is there a risk that motorists will start complying with restrictions that apply, so the revenue that we are predicting for the next three years won't actually be obtained because motorists wise up to the restrictions and start complying? Is that something we need to worry about?"

Mr Iles conceded that “there is a risk of compliance”, but said civil servants had “factored” the “significant hike” in fines into their budget projections.

“It’s expected that people will not comply straight away, despite all of the associated signs,” he added." (Yahoo, 24, Oct 2021)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 24 Oct 21 8.42am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The International Climate meeting still a few days away (Glasgow ,31 October - 12 November 2021), but the build-up has begun.
Road closures, to allow safe passage for delegates and people on the fringes getting their kicks in early.

Greta said COP26 would just be 'Blah Blah Blah'
Tony Blair just been on TV this morning, saying Greta trots out her own version of Blah Blah Blah. Blair just high-lighted the disparity between developed countries making progress and the developing countries being more polluting than ever.

Two topics immediately came to mind for me.
1. The air industry has taken a battering from Covid. How can you encourage an industry which so heavily pollutes, when there are not really any viable alternatives ?


2. Natural resources like the South American rain forests. How to protect these resources, whilst defending a Governments rights to exploit them ?


Any issues you are interested in ?

None of it as its all bollox made up to make money.
The earth will deal with it and we will be collateral damage!
Don't show me cyclical weather events that happen no matter what car I'm driving; don't build on natural flood plains and don't be shocked when el nino comes around and makes it hot.
Shoew me figures for gases in the atmosphere which are assumed to be causing global warming,climate change or whichever buzz word is in the news. Show me facts not news. Tell me why if you disagree you are cancelled and show me where it is says science is determined by the amount of people who say yes.
This is not to you FH BTW just my take on it.

 

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The International Climate meeting still a few days away (Glasgow ,31 October - 12 November 2021), but the build-up has begun.
Road closures, to allow safe passage for delegates and people on the fringes getting their kicks in early.

Greta said COP26 would just be 'Blah Blah Blah'
Tony Blair just been on TV this morning, saying Greta trots out her own version of Blah Blah Blah. Blair just high-lighted the disparity between developed countries making progress and the developing countries being more polluting than ever.

Two topics immediately came to mind for me.
1. The air industry has taken a battering from Covid. How can you encourage an industry which so heavily pollutes, when there are not really any viable alternatives ?


2. Natural resources like the South American rain forests. How to protect these resources, whilst defending a Governments rights to exploit them ?


Any issues you are interested in ?

I was in Glasgow 6 weeks ago the locals are not happy as roads have been blocked off and rerouted for months all for this conference and for Nicola to strut her stuff. The cabbie gave me an earful of how difficult it is to get around the city at the moment.

HMQ is correct politicians will turn up sign anything and then ignore it. Meanwhile our dopey government will force us to wear the hair shirt.

 


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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 24 Oct 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

None of it as its all bollox made up to make money.
The earth will deal with it and we will be collateral damage!
Don't show me cyclical weather events that happen no matter what car I'm driving; don't build on natural flood plains and don't be shocked when el nino comes around and makes it hot.
Shoew me figures for gases in the atmosphere which are assumed to be causing global warming,climate change or whichever buzz word is in the news. Show me facts not news. Tell me why if you disagree you are cancelled and show me where it is says science is determined by the amount of people who say yes.
This is not to you FH BTW just my take on it.


There are thousands upon thousands of peer reviewed studies that evaluate and conclude that climate change is a real, and being driven by human influence.

Perhaps you should take some time to actually read them, rather than post a fringe opinion.

 

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View Far away fan's Profile Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 24 Oct 21 9.45am Send a Private Message to Far away fan Add Far away fan as a friend

I live in Asia in all our village's we do not have rubbish trucks coming around collecting rubbish we just burn plastic bags and all our rubbish every night, also my farms I burn every year, its mainly whole Asia does in rural districts, but we have people come around collect glass bottles, tin, and plastic bottles like cooking oil etc and they pay us for buying them off us.

 

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Originally posted by Wilesy01


There are thousands upon thousands of peer reviewed studies that evaluate and conclude that climate change is a real, and being driven by human influence.

Perhaps you should take some time to actually read them, rather than post a fringe opinion.

My issue is we seem to be hurting ourselves whilst others do nothing. I am fine with going green but not at the expense of our economy and the extra costs to the public.

For example banning gas fired central heating when there isn't an obvious cheap replacement is just stupid. Boris should be putting more money into research and also insulation.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 24 Oct 21 11.55am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01


There are thousands upon thousands of peer reviewed studies that evaluate and conclude that climate change is a real, and being driven by human influence.

Perhaps you should take some time to actually read them, rather than post a fringe opinion.

Yes yes yes but the majority of people don't give a stuff.

 


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Copout26 would be more appropriate.

Window dressing to hide the fact that fossil fuels are on the increase.

In the UK it would need a radical left-green government to make any difference.

The UK is a place just waiting for the next crisis, thinking that it will not really affect them anyway.

Actually the only person switched on and making a difference is Mayor Khan.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Oct 21 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Copout26 would be more appropriate.

Window dressing to hide the fact that fossil fuels are on the increase.

In the UK it would need a radical left-green government to make any difference.

The UK is a place just waiting for the next crisis, thinking that it will not really affect them anyway.

Actually the only person switched on and making a difference is Mayor Khan.


Thanks Steeleye I always like to start the new week with a belly laugh.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 24 Oct 21 1.15pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Copout26 would be more appropriate.

Window dressing to hide the fact that fossil fuels are on the increase.

In the UK it would need a radical left-green government to make any difference.

The UK is a place just waiting for the next crisis, thinking that it will not really affect them anyway.

Actually the only person switched on and making a difference is Mayor Khan.

Possibly, but even then it would make no difference at all!!

 


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