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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 26 Oct 21 4.33am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

if the ball is in the oppositions half they cant score, fact

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


taking Luka off after 65 minutes would have got my vote. The Serb 30 man squad did not include him. A premier league player.

His form today is below where he was two or three years ago. We need a midfielder to terrify the opposition with blistering pace toward their goal.

Not sure that we have a better replacement in that spot and bringing on/selecting Kouyate is sideways at best. Luca has been patchy - including some very good stuff - but he's not why we concede late goals

The midfield moves I'd look at are bringing on either Hughes or Schlupp. Elsewhere I've sung the praises of the Macca Gallagher axis but that doesn't exclude a substitution in that area to bring on more energy/dynamism. They get through an amazing amount of work and fresh legs there could add impetus.

I'm actually hopeful for Hughes. PV appears to be a great coach. Yes Macca has always been good for us but he's added to him this season. I don't see any real reason why he should not be able to add to Hughes - who has been a very good player - in the same way.

 

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Play keep-ball, preferably in the opponent's half. Never bring a defender on for an attacker because then there is no outlet. If anything bring on a lively midfielder, because this is the area that is vital to compete.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 26 Oct 21 8.25am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

This - +
Dont give away cheap fouls just outside the box


Originally posted by Wilbraham413

1) Waste time better. Against Arsenal, we didn't do a good job of wasting time when we had the chance. Newcastle wasted so much time against us, and only got one yellow card at the very end for it.

2) Have players who can maintain possession. Against Arsenal we had too many defensive players who couldn't break out or keep the ball away from Arsenal. I would start Ayew on the bench, and sub him in at the end to keep the ball away from the other team. Wilf is also good at this.

3) Don't concede cheap corners. We stink at defending set pieces. Rather than cheaply heading the ball behind, we need to try harder to avoid giving up corners at the end of matches. Newcastle had 25% possession, and 7 corners to our 3 corners. That's a problem.

Basically, we need to be able to park the bus, not concede cheap corners, and occasionally break out with players who are able to move the ball upfield to waste time and take pressure off the defense.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Oct 21 9.41am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


taking Luka off after 65 minutes would have got my vote. The Serb 30 man squad did not include him. A premier league player.

His form today is below where he was two or three years ago. We need a midfielder to terrify the opposition with blistering pace toward their goal.

He quit International football earlier this year is why

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Oct 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

1) Waste time better. Against Arsenal, we didn't do a good job of wasting time when we had the chance. Newcastle wasted so much time against us, and only got one yellow card at the very end for it.

2) Have players who can maintain possession. Against Arsenal we had too many defensive players who couldn't break out or keep the ball away from Arsenal. I would start Ayew on the bench, and sub him in at the end to keep the ball away from the other team. Wilf is also good at this.

3) Don't concede cheap corners. We stink at defending set pieces. Rather than cheaply heading the ball behind, we need to try harder to avoid giving up corners at the end of matches. Newcastle had 25% possession, and 7 corners to our 3 corners. That's a problem.

Basically, we need to be able to park the bus, not concede cheap corners, and occasionally break out with players who are able to move the ball upfield to waste time and take pressure off the defense.

Jools was a master of the delayed goal kick. He would, when required, regularly take 30 seconds to take one.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Oct 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

1) Waste time better. Against Arsenal, we didn't do a good job of wasting time when we had the chance. Newcastle wasted so much time against us, and only got one yellow card at the very end for it.

2) Have players who can maintain possession. Against Arsenal we had too many defensive players who couldn't break out or keep the ball away from Arsenal. I would start Ayew on the bench, and sub him in at the end to keep the ball away from the other team. Wilf is also good at this.

3) Don't concede cheap corners. We stink at defending set pieces. Rather than cheaply heading the ball behind, we need to try harder to avoid giving up corners at the end of matches. Newcastle had 25% possession, and 7 corners to our 3 corners. That's a problem.

Basically, we need to be able to park the bus, not concede cheap corners, and occasionally break out with players who are able to move the ball upfield to waste time and take pressure off the defense.

I think those points are contradictory.

When Tomkins was introduced I saw that as us '' parking the bus ''. As a result we sat deeper and invited Arsenal to try to break us down. To be fair it nearly worked, but the alternative of bringing Schlupp on and keeping Arsenal higher up the pitch would have been my preference.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Oct 21 9.54am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

The Brighton goal came from a mistake by Guita
The Arsenal goal started with Luka making a needless foul.
The Sandcastle goal started with a push in the back to Ward.

3 terrible goals to give away but not one of them was down to decent play against us.

And these are all examples of things that a coach can't legislate for. Which makes it all the more frustrating.

I do think that the Newcastle goal was ultimately a fine piece of skill from Wilson. Sometimes you just have to accept that those moments can happen

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

if the ball is in the oppositions half they cant score, fact

not so sure about that Fact.
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Originally posted by becky

His name's not Mort is it?

He's long gone now, but, Mort no. I affectionately called him Statler, because he vaguely looked and sounded like the old guy who partnered Waldorf in the Muppets.

 


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The answer is to keep possession and try and score another goal. Hard I know if the team is tiring and the oppo are desperate to attack.

 

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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 26 Oct 21 2.27pm Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

They are professional footballers, who go through all different types of in-game, shape, possession, strengths of the opposition/individuals, how best to counter mental fatigue in a game, what went well and what didnít the previous game analysis.

So my question is:

Why not try to do everything in your power to give the opposition a throw-in rather than a corner at any point if you are susceptible to conceding a 1 goal lead.

Arsenal corner shouldíve been prevented but ok - the Newcastle game donít give away cheap corners.

I donít get why they tend not to learn from past costly mistakes.

 

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