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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 28 Oct 21 5.05pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


David was meant to be the Labour leader. Personally I see the him (David Miliband) as the personification of all that is wrong with not only politics in the UK but also of the wider world (look at his current job if you want a little glimpse of how geo-politics works. It is fascinating, at least to sad geeks like me, to observe just how the links between charity and politics are so intertwined.

But if you want a cheeky outside bet with money you can afford to fritter away, then a few quid on Dave Miliband being this countries next Labour Prime-Minister might be a worth-while punt. Trust me, he ain't gone away and still has at least one eye on number 10.

I think they are both instinctively more left and so closer to the membership.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 28 Oct 21 5.11pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

But surely the real question is, is he tuss enough? Hell yeah he's tuss enough.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Oct 21 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

He lives at the edge of Highgate and Kentish Town, he is the absolute personification of North London metropolitan elite.

"Born in University College Hospital in Fitzrovia, London, Miliband is the younger son of immigrant parents.[2][3] His mother, Marion Kozak, a human rights campaigner and early CND member, is a Polish Jew who survived the Holocaust thanks to being protected by Catholic Poles.[4] His father, Ralph Miliband, was a Belgian-born Polish Jewish Marxist academic whose father fled with him to England during the Second World War.[5][6] The family lived on Edis Street in Primrose Hill, London. His elder brother, David Miliband, still owns the house as of 2010.[7]

Unless Primrose Hill has magically jumped from London to Leeds no he didn't per Wiki.


Ah, so he didn't grow up from the age of 3 until 7 in Leeds then and go to Featherbank Infants, prior to his father taking them globe-trotting. Silly me.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Oct 21 5.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, so he didn't grow up from the age of 3 until 7 in Leeds then and go to Featherbank Infants, prior to his father taking them globe-trotting. Silly me.

3 to 7? He probably gained as much insight as a lot of his colleagues.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Oct 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

3 to 7? He probably gained as much insight as a lot of his colleagues.

Facts are facts.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Oct 21 5.52pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

3 to 7? He probably gained as much insight as a lot of his colleagues.

A child of 7 has far more insight than any member of the brexiteer generation.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 28 Oct 21 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

I think they are both instinctively more left and so closer to the membership.

Nah. David was/is a full on Blairite. And still 100% part of that same cabal, who are now effectively back in charge of the Labour Party.

Ed was definitely more to the Left, and got the Trade Union backing which effectively allowed him to beat his brother.

And lets not forget that back in 2015, at 9.59pm on May 7 2015, 'Red' Ed genuinely believed he had every chance of being the next Prime Minister. With the rest being history.

Weird really. Has there ever been such a traumatic 6 or so years in British political history during peace time? When so much has changed/happened?

If I was a politics student then doing a PHD on that period would be an absolute must. No matter what your view point a fascinating time for politics, not only in the UK.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Oct 21 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A child of 7 has far more insight than any member of the brexiteer generation.

Time to lower the voting age.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Oct 21 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

He lives at the edge of Highgate and Kentish Town, he is the absolute personification of North London metropolitan elite.

"Born in University College Hospital in Fitzrovia, London, Miliband is the younger son of immigrant parents.[2][3] His mother, Marion Kozak, a human rights campaigner and early CND member, is a Polish Jew who survived the Holocaust thanks to being protected by Catholic Poles.[4] His father, Ralph Miliband, was a Belgian-born Polish Jewish Marxist academic whose father fled with him to England during the Second World War.[5][6] The family lived on Edis Street in Primrose Hill, London. His elder brother, David Miliband, still owns the house as of 2010.[7]

Unless Primrose Hill has magically jumped from London to Leeds no he didn't per Wiki.


I have been looking forward to your apology. I expect you’ve been busy.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 28 Oct 21 7.56pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

And I'd quite like to know why (in the current climate) the only lesson from someone emailing a politician threatening their children is that the politician shouldn't 'whip up discord'.

As stated, there is plenty routinely said by politicians that is little different from calling someone 'scum' or implying it. Ill advised yes; but there is however a difference between such opinion and threatening someones child as result of it.

She shouldn't have said it, but in apologising now seemingly as result of something threatening her kids, I don't see that as being a very healthy outcome either.


Edited by BlueJay (28 Oct 2021 10.27pm)

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 28 Oct 21 11.13pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, so he didn't grow up from the age of 3 until 7 in Leeds then and go to Featherbank Infants, prior to his father taking them globe-trotting. Silly me.

Lol . There’s more spin in that than in the whole of Parliament. Grow up generally means to grow into maturity. Who says ‘he grew up from the age of 3 to 7?’ Yeah, no one.

Edited by Helmet46 (28 Oct 2021 11.16pm)

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 29 Oct 21 12.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Am happy to admit when I am wrong, please at least provide some substantiation. If he lived as a child in Leeds from the ages of 3 -7 he would have " grown up " a bit from the process of getting older.

" Hell yes " to quote the great man


Originally posted by Mapletree

I have been looking forward to your apology. I expect you’ve been busy.

Edited by HKOwen (29 Oct 2021 12.37am)

Edited by HKOwen (29 Oct 2021 12.42am)

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

When conceited septuagenarians opine , best to ignore.

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