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Murder of sisters in Wembley

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 29 Oct 21 1.49am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Explain to me why the public have to shell out in the region of 2 million to keep this piece of human waste housed and fed for the next 35 years.

I don't agree with the " we don't do revenge " argument. I don't see this as about revenge. If anyone believes there is a reason to attempt rehabilitation in this case then they are delusional IMHO.

This is not a case where there is any doubt about the identity of the murderer.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 29 Oct 21 11.05am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Agree with you HKO. In cases like this where there is no doubt whatsoever about the killer, there should be no doubt whatsoever about the penalty.

 


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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 29 Oct 21 11.45am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Personally, I'd be OK with having a death penalty for proof of guilt is undeniable, but I also appreciate the counter argument about NOT having the death penalty.

What I never understand is why, in cases like this, the sentence comes with a recommendation of at least 35 years before release. Why should murderers ever be released. I just don't get why life doesn't mean life.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Oct 21 12.23pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

a society with an over-supply of young men is always a violent society.

such are the lessons of History & sociology.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 29 Oct 21 2.05pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

There are many cases where guilt and identity are certain and these should IMHO be potentially capital . Westminster doesn't want a referendum in case is says yes.


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Murder rate has more or less doubled since abolition and 2/3 of people think capital punishment can be justified

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Oct 21 2.20pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

Personally, I'd be OK with having a death penalty for proof of guilt is undeniable, but I also appreciate the counter argument about NOT having the death penalty.

What I never understand is why, in cases like this, the sentence comes with a recommendation of at least 35 years before release. Why should murderers ever be released. I just don't get why life doesn't mean life.

Yes, there"s murders, and there"s murders. Someone pizzed on a night out gets in a fight and kills someone by hitting them over the head with an ashtray(remember them?), is one thing, a long sentence should prevail, but this lunatic, killing 2 people, pre meditated, deserves a whole life sentance, never being released, I was disappointed with 35 years, save money by putting these loons in a small cell with no bed and one bowl of soup a day with some bread, but never let him out!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Oct 21 8.18pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


the money-cost of housing a monster for 40 years
versus
spending all that money on the NHS.

The hangman's noose has saved many lives in the past.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Oct 21 11.59am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


the money-cost of housing a monster for 40 years
versus
spending all that money on the NHS.

The hangman's noose has saved many lives in the past.

The trouble is with all the appeals, plus the twenty years it will take to actually execute anyone, nothing will be saved. There won't even be any sense of revenge for the family, or society, the solicitors will have taken the final drop of blood from that stone. It's just not going to happen.

 


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