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Originally posted by Eagle Black.

The inquiry will be interesting on November the 16th where the ECB will have nowhere to hide.

More names will be named,will be nice to flush out the racists at Yorkshire and eventually bring them in line with the 21st century.

Btw well done Rafiq and others for coming forward and bringing this story into the public eye.

Very sad although it maybe.

You know as well as I do that Rafiq will be exonerated and Yorkshire persecuted no matter what actually happened.

That is the climate we now live in.

Taking things to this level makes a mockery of those who have suffered genuine racism in the past and helps to undo all the tolerance and progress with racist antagonisms that has been made over the last 50 years.

This is yet another own goal for racial harmony.

 

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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 07 Nov 21 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Racism in Yorkshire cricket, who knew ?? Hardly the week's most surprising news item.
Back in the 80s Viv Richards was all for climbing into the crowd at Scarborough with his bat to confront someone who called him a 'black b******'.
Very sad indeed what is coming out at Yorkshire CCC but there needs to finally be a line drawn in the sand and something done concretely to even start a change of attitudes.
Thanks to the likes of the greed of Mark Zuckerberg etc, nothing is changing because the cliche of taking the knee at games is having no effect as there is clearly no reduction in the abuse players are taking online (witness Wilf again after last Saturday's magnificent win).

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 1.46pm

Originally posted by Swindy

Racism in Yorkshire cricket, who knew ?? Hardly the week's most surprising news item.
Back in the 80s Viv Richards was all for climbing into the crowd at Scarborough with his bat to confront someone who called him a 'black b******'.
Very sad indeed what is coming out at Yorkshire CCC but there needs to finally be a line drawn in the sand and something done concretely to even start a change of attitudes.
Thanks to the likes of the greed of Mark Zuckerberg etc, nothing is changing because the cliche of taking the knee at games is having no effect as there is clearly no reduction in the abuse players are taking online (witness Wilf again after last Saturday's magnificent win).

What a shame that such 'tolerance and progress' is now being undone :P.

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

What a shame that such 'tolerance and progress' is now being undone :P.

That was in the 80s.

Try reading the posts properly before spouting garbage.

 

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Yeah, read the post !

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 2.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have essentially stopped replying to your crap, but you must be running out of straw by now.

Your boring essays telling me what I think and putting words in my mouth just displays how little you understand and how warped and prejudiced your attitude is.

You like what this country is becoming? You are in a minority.

I'm neither warped nor prejudiced thanks. I have enough around me of all colours and creeds to keep me firmly attached to the real world and real people. You perpetually and sweepingly bemoaning how immigrants have ruined the country (hijacking this incident as further example) and talking wistfully of the days where 'n word in the woodpile' drifted by like an unquestioned dream, are the one out of sync with decency. I voted for Brexit, i'm not some kind of hippy, but we all have our limits either with the 'woke' stuff or its opposite and your unhealthy, relentlessly one dimensional racial obsession is one of them.

I've repeatedly said that the lurches to both 'sides' of identity politics are unhelpful, as in this situation. The reason you've latched onto my post is because the suggestion of a mixed race family being in your future clearly fills you with unease, because it falls outside of what you see yourself 'defending' and you know how ill fitting it is with your racial mantra. Well that's the reality of what's coming, so why not put more thought into how you generalise those you choose to detach yourself from. Turning people into 'the other' comes from both sides, and from yours the perpetual 'just ignore it' at every instance of racist abuse, while fixating very negatively on those who react to it is as boring as it is ridiculous and unhelpful.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Nov 2021 3.22pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 2.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That was in the 80s.

Try reading the posts properly before spouting garbage.

Your head is stuck in the 60's, so that's positively futuristic for you.

Plus this behaviour still happens today. That's kind of the point.

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Taking things to this level makes a mockery of those who have suffered genuine racism in the past and helps to undo all the tolerance and progress with racist antagonisms that has been made over the last 50 years.

This is yet another own goal for racial harmony.

I would agree that taking things to this level don't help matters; i've said as much. Let's not pretend you're interested in racial harmony though, or that you're some kind of authority on what 'genuine racism' is. You have routinely dismissed almost every instance of racism ever stated on here as some kind of nothingness, without any experience of it, or concern for the impact or differing magnitudes of it.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Nov 2021 2.55pm)

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

I would agree that taking things to this level don't help matters; i've said as much. Let's not pretend you're interested in racial harmony though, or that you're some kind of authority on what 'genuine racism' is. You have routinely dismissed almost every instance of racism ever stated on here as some kind of nothingness, without any experience of it, or concern for the impact or differing magnitudes of it.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Nov 2021 2.55pm)

I certainly don't care what you think, so I don't know why you insist on telling me.

I also don't think that anyone needs your interpretation of what I say.

They can read my posts.


 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 8.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I certainly don't care what you think, so I don't know why you insist on telling me.

I also don't think that anyone needs your interpretation of what I say.

They can read my posts.


Indeed they can and indeed they have.

The funny thing about people who feel like they 'tell it like it is', is that when you repeat their attitudes back to them suddenly its a 'half truth' of they never said it.

I'll reply to your future racial rants as they happen then, so you'll have a helpful balancing contribution based on your precise statements (which is what you already had anyway) as well as your perpetually negative attitude to non whites and immigrants (and mantra that they should 'ignore' hatred and mistreatment, while you endlessly prattle on about it yourself when you perceive that it affects you).

Edited by BlueJay (07 Nov 2021 8.48pm)

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Indeed they can and indeed they have.

The funny thing about people who feel like they 'tell it like it is', is that when you repeat their attitudes back to them suddenly its a 'half truth' of they never said it.

I'll reply to your future racial rants as they happen then, so you'll have a helpful balancing contribution based on your precise statements (which is what you already had anyway) as well as your perpetually negative attitude to non whites and immigrants (and mantra that they should 'ignore' hatred and mistreatment, while you endlessly prattle on about it yourself when you perceive that it affects you).

Edited by BlueJay (07 Nov 2021 8.48pm)

You don't repeat what I say. You misrepresent it in your own barmy language.
Now just go away. Your obsession with me is really all about you.

I don't approve of mass immigration, and one reason is the predictable constant barrage of race related issues and race card players that now threaten to ruin our enjoyment of just about everything.

That opinion doesn't require your twisted, warped spin.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Nov 21 9.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't repeat what I say. You misrepresent it in your own barmy language.
Now just go away. Your obsession with me is really all about you.

Hysterical unreality designed to dissuade people from commenting on a borderline troubled racial outlook. I'll continue to comment on occasions where your comments sweepingly designate immigrants or other races as ruinous in some way with zero nuance attached. Your cavalier one tone take doesn't need 'spin' to make it sound bad.

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I don't approve of mass immigration, and one reason is the predictable constant barrage of race related issues and race card players that now threaten to ruin our enjoyment of just about everything.

That opinion doesn't require your twisted, warped spin.

Good for you. Neither do I, old bean.

But as I've said before, your routine of endlessly excusing racism aimed at non whites as nothing, attacking any reaction by them to it, while simultaneously pulling your own daily victim routine is hardly balance, fair or sensible.

A reasonable stance appreciates the dignity of people, their challenges and yet at the same time sees that outcomes such as this where overreaction occurs is just an equally unhealthy lurch in the other direction. Here, an acknowledgement of concerns before they reached this point, may have been better, but as yet we don't have all of the facts to hand. Taking things case by case is a fair approach and any 'woke' off with their heads push is certainly just as boring, ridiculous and counterproductive as those entirely nonplussed by racial abuse of others. Those, like yourself, on the sidelines latching onto 'Immigrants ruin all things' opportunities at every turn, hardly help. You fuel and indeed are part of the problem you observe.

Edited by BlueJay (08 Nov 2021 7.54am)

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

What a shame that such 'tolerance and progress' is now being undone :P.

That’s racist! And don’t bother playing the “it was only sarcasm” card.

 

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