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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 May 22 8.00pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

And even with us, problems being that post Brexit, the government just finds another way to rejig the system to keep immigration coming thick and fast. Just more often from outside of EU countries.

Immigration from outside the EU has an element of control, unlike freedom of movement.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 May 22 8.49pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Last page here is april 22, anyone else get this where last page is a few weeks back?need to bump it up

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 May 22 12.16am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Immigration from outside the EU has an element of control, unlike freedom of movement.

Certainly. In theory it's a step forward but is ultimately wholly dependent on the whims of our government.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 22 12.26am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Certainly. In theory it's a step forward but is ultimately wholly dependent on the whims of our government.

Just helps change the face of Britain and Europe and its Islamification.

 


COYP

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 May 22 12.40am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Just helps change the face of Britain and Europe and its Islamification.

A concern all along was that they'd just exchange EU immigration for non EU and eventually in similar numbers, so essentially make the situation more pronounced. I guess with such big changes in Brexit and Covid it will take some time to actually get a handle on what their vision is fo the country (since it's often so different to that of those voting for them).

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 May 22 9.24am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

91,000 civil servants to go

So thatís all good, now that the oven ready Brexit deal is in full swing

Itís not as though there have been any issues of resourcing for HMRC, DWP, DVLA, Passport Office etc etc etc

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

91,000 civil servants to go

So thatís all good, now that the oven ready Brexit deal is in full swing

Itís not as though there have been any issues of resourcing for HMRC, DWP, DVLA, Passport Office etc etc etc

It's not a resource issue with these bureaucracies, it is their inefficiencies, waste and incompetence - as with most state run activities.

Edited by georgenorman (13 May 2022 9.30am)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 13 May 22 9.36am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

91,000 civil servants to go

So thatís all good, now that the oven ready Brexit deal is in full swing

Itís not as though there have been any issues of resourcing for HMRC, DWP, DVLA, Passport Office etc etc etc

How many are early retirement packages for people who want to leave?

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 May 22 10.29am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

It's not a resource issue with these bureaucracies, it is their inefficiencies, waste and incompetence - as with most state run activities.

Edited by georgenorman (13 May 2022 9.30am)

You're exactly right. Have close family in them all. They do nothing and are highly rewarded for it (after going up the scales). They then get excellent pensions.
As Teddy states above, these will be ones that want to leave.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 22 11.47am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A concern all along was that they'd just exchange EU immigration for non EU and eventually in similar numbers, so essentially make the situation more pronounced. I guess with such big changes in Brexit and Covid it will take some time to actually get a handle on what their vision is fo the country (since it's often so different to that of those voting for them).

Yep

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 May 22 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

It's not a resource issue with these bureaucracies, it is their inefficiencies, waste and incompetence - as with most state run activities.

Edited by georgenorman (13 May 2022 9.30am)

Having waited 3 1/2 years for HMRC to process a very simple tax return and give me a refund, I know about efficiency all too well. But don't worry, Jacob Rees-Mogg is going to have them all return to the office.

So humour me here. How will removing 91,000 posts improve efficiency and reduce incompetence? Asking for a friend.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 13 May 22 1.33pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The proposal seems to be allowing the average 38,000 retirements and leavers per year cut the head count over 3 years.

The Civil Service needs a complete overhaul, far too many passengers.

Cab you believe senior civil servants not only want to not come to the the office they want permission to work from abroad, presumably in their French second homes

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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