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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 27 Nov 21 6.43pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by adelaar

I have to say, Luka was simply hopeless today. There was nothing he could do right. Yet somehow he's on set pieces? Is he really all we have in those situations? Please PV give it to anyone else.
Kouyate tries hard but has zero ball skills. He makes an effort though which I respect.
Forget Europe yet, we have made great progress but today showed the alarming gaps we still have in this team.
Just met some Danish fans in the Cherry Tree- I feel for them, they came over to see Joachim! Maybe next time!

I find it infuriating and every time he takes one the commentators say "Milovojevic stands over the ball and we all know what a danger he is from set pieces".

No, he's really not, he's good at penalties but not free kicks. He's actually scored six free kicks in an 11 year career, just one more than James Ward-Prowse scored last season. Absolutely no idea why Gallagher isn't on them.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 27 Nov 21 6.44pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

I believe in admitting when Iím wrong and owning the mistake. Today I need to make an admission about Luka.

Heís not good enough for this current palace team.

Iíve supported him passionately. You all know that. And I stilll believe heís got quality. Weíve all seen it. But for whatever reason, itís a distant memory.

I canít defend him anymore. And apologies for trying to for so long.

He shouldnít see much more game time for us now. Needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Cheers

The only Cheers from me will be in the pub later forgetting this afternoon

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Online Flag 27 Nov 21 6.47pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

Kouyate adds sod all to this side. Luka I can see the point of, he does a screening job.

Kouyates crap in the air & crap on the ball. His first touch is further than I can kick it in most cases.

Edited by robdave2k (27 Nov 2021 5.19pm)

I've been saying it since long time, he really is pony! Pairing him with the equally dreadful Luka and we've handed an advantage to the opposition from the off.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 27 Nov 21 6.49pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

I believe in admitting when Iím wrong and owning the mistake. Today I need to make an admission about Luka.

Heís not good enough for this current palace team.

Iíve supported him passionately. You all know that. And I stilll believe heís got quality. Weíve all seen it. But for whatever reason, itís a distant memory.

I canít defend him anymore. And apologies for trying to for so long.

He shouldnít see much more game time for us now. Needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Cheers


Appreciate your honesty sprites. Something Villa need to learn before they trash the sport.

 

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View soapbox's Profile soapbox Flag 27 Nov 21 7.05pm Send a Private Message to soapbox Add soapbox as a friend

ĎSwindyí makes a lot of great points. Iím sure that Gerrardís pre-match talk to his team encouraged them to surround and intimidate a new ref, who was generally poor and inconsistent. You have to say however that in that respect Palace weíre naive- Luka played poorly, but captained even worse, remonstrating with his own side and failing to question the ref about his decision making.
It is very sad to see a player fall away from their excellent standard of three years agoÖ how we missed Jimmy Mac today!

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 27 Nov 21 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

did anyone else notice that that the score board it said that it was not a deliberate foul and not a red card by number 6 Guehi . Do these people at VAR headquarters know what they are looking at or what for .
Poor game today .

 

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View KevW's Profile KevW Flag Windsor 27 Nov 21 7.23pm Send a Private Message to KevW Add KevW as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

Kouyate adds sod all to this side. Luka I can see the point of, he does a screening job.

Kouyates crap in the air & crap on the ball. His first touch is further than I can kick it in most cases.

Edited by robdave2k (27 Nov 2021 5.19pm)

His second touch is usually a tackle!! At least he won a couple of those. Donít think Luka won a tackle the whole time he was on.

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 27 Nov 21 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

I believe in admitting when Iím wrong and owning the mistake. Today I need to make an admission about Luka.

Heís not good enough for this current palace team.

Iíve supported him passionately. You all know that. And I stilll believe heís got quality. Weíve all seen it. But for whatever reason, itís a distant memory.

I canít defend him anymore. And apologies for trying to for so long.

He shouldnít see much more game time for us now. Needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Cheers

Agree. f***ing dog sh*t today.

 

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View Rainforest's Profile Rainforest Flag London England 27 Nov 21 7.44pm Send a Private Message to Rainforest Add Rainforest as a friend

We are not moving the ball forward fast enough to attack the opposition. When Quaita had the ball he rolled out to one of his back four only repeatedly passing the ball sideways and backwards between them allowing Villa's defence to regroup and slowing us down moving forward. Why was Quiata so reluctant to kick the ball upfield to allow our midfield and forwards to chase and attack.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 27 Nov 21 7.48pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Vieira said in his post match interview that we made it easy for them playing in front of them and not playing quickly enough nor attempting runs in behind their defence. There was a slight improvement in the second half but we didnít really create much.
Mcarthur is a big miss in terms of how the team functions being the glue which joins up much of our play.
Iím not sure Luka warrants a place in terms of his contribution (over a long period) and while Kouyate has a number of attributes he does lack creativity.
I couldnít understand why Olise was so reluctant to take on his man or play an early cross instead of continually playing the ball back to Ward.
At the moment he may have more impact as an impact sub even though he is clearly talented.
My hope is that this was a bit of a one off as there were lots of poor performances from our players.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Nov 21 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Vieira said in his post match interview that we made it easy for them playing in front of them and not playing quickly enough nor attempting runs in behind their defence. There was a slight improvement in the second half but we didnít really create much.
Mcarthur is a big miss in terms of how the team functions being the glue which joins up much of our play.
Iím not sure Luka warrants a place in terms of his contribution (over a long period) and while Kouyate has a number of attributes he does lack creativity.
I couldnít understand why Olise was so reluctant to take on his man or play an early cross instead of continually playing the ball back to Ward.
At the moment he may have more impact as an impact sub even though he is clearly talented.
My hope is that this was a bit of a one off as there were lots of poor performances from our players.

Yup so why did he play Kouyate and Luka neither are the most mobile. Hopefully he learned that today, if we are to play a pressing game they should not be paired together.

 


One more point

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 27 Nov 21 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by soapbox

ĎSwindyí makes a lot of great points. Iím sure that Gerrardís pre-match talk to his team encouraged them to surround and intimidate a new ref, who was generally poor and inconsistent. You have to say however that in that respect Palace weíre naive- Luka played poorly, but captained even worse, remonstrating with his own side and failing to question the ref about his decision making.
It is very sad to see a player fall away from their excellent standard of three years agoÖ how we missed Jimmy Mac today!

Agree about Luka as captain. When Zaha was having the spat in 1st half, Mings was there as captain, Luka was standing near centre circle with hands on his hips.
Awful performance today, awful ref, awful opponents, why was Watkins not booked for diving? Martinez when feigning ď injuryĒ threw the ball out, why was play not restarted with a throw in rather than in goalkeepers hands? Have I missed a rule change?
Villa play acting an embarrassment but maybe we should do the same

 

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