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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 05 Dec 21 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Ayew should only come off the bench late in a match when we are winning. He's a defensive sub, that's it. Or, you can start him in matches where you have no intention of ever scoring a goal.

Schlupp should only come off the bench late in a match when we are losing, and we have no other possible options on the bench. He usually makes one run per appearance, then you never see him again.

Benteke should only start when you've given up trying to pass the ball, and you just want to hoof the ball up to him and hope for a lucky bounce to Wilf.

The past 2 weeks, PV has bemoaned our lack of finishing, then he starts Ayew, Schlupp, and Benteke. Benteke does nothing, Ayew misses a sitter, and Schlupp passively watches Fred boot in the winning goal right past him.

Yes, JMac and Andersen are good players, but we shouldn't look this sh-t. Our bench today was stronger than our starting lineup. It's safe to say that PV has started to lose the plot. Today looked exactly like Royball. Negative lineup, negative football.

So what would you have written if Ayew's attempt hadn't just missed but gone in I wonder, it would've altered what happened after and we may have actually won the game, We lost to Villa by one goal a little undeservedly and then did the same away to Leeds, some games are tough and some fans need to get a grip.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 05 Dec 21 5.47pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

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Let us not forget that CG could not save WBA or Fulham from the drop and I expect that will also apply to us!

hardly surprising. He’s never played for Fulham!!

 

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View 1969eagle's Profile 1969eagle Flag manchester 05 Dec 21 5.49pm Send a Private Message to 1969eagle Add 1969eagle as a friend

We really miss Anderson. Makes playing out from the back very difficult. McArthur is also a big miss. Ayew is essential when we are defending against much better sides like United. The big test will be when we have players away for Africa nations cup soon (zaha, schlupp, ayew? Kouyate). But good news is that will be an opp for olise Eze and others to start &#129395;

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 05 Dec 21 5.52pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Plan B is urgently required. Don’t ask me what that is. I know we are missing Jimmy and Anderson badly but we have Eze Olise Edouard to name others all ready.
We need something different.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 05 Dec 21 5.59pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

If Burnley win their game in hand then we are 3 points above the drop zone albeit with a better goal difference.
I am worried because we have repeated the same mistakes and played the same misshapen way for 270 mins now.
Concerned!

Edited by The Dolphin (05 Dec 2021 6.00pm)

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 05 Dec 21 6.04pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

But Ayew didn't score, as he hasn't supposedly in around the last 30 odd games.
To apply this logic you might as well say Ayew cost us 2 points v Brighton as we would have beaten them if Ayew had taken his chance. It's futile to refer to what might have been.
Furthermore, we were not unlucky v Villa and deserved to lose against an average side on the day.
It's perfectly legitimate to question our recent performances rather than look for weak excuses and be told to 'get a grip.'
It is after all a game of opinions and being a supporter doesn't mean not being able to question recent performances or Ayew's goalscoring record.

Originally posted by Tickled pink

So what would you have written if Ayew's attempt hadn't just missed but gone in I wonder, it would've altered what happened after and we may have actually won the game, We lost to Villa by one goal a little undeservedly and then did the same away to Leeds, some games are tough and some fans need to get a grip.

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 05 Dec 21 6.58pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

I think Ayew may have been offside even if he had scored.

 

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View Hannes's Profile Hannes Flag Vienna 05 Dec 21 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Hannes Add Hannes as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

I think Ayew may have been offside even if he had scored.

This was also my first impression.

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 05 Dec 21 7.18pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

I think Ayew may have been offside even if he had scored.

No he wasn't. 2 others were who, if they had got a touch on it would meant it would of been disallowed but Ayew was fine.

 


Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Dec 21 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We miss them but it's more than that. We have been worked out, as we always would be. We are being pressed before we can press. Gallagher has been recognised as our main creative player and the link we always look for and he is being given no time and crowded out. This is now a real challenge for our management team. We weren't just second best today, we were third or fourth best. The ref and the crowd played better and we were lucky to get 0 goals the lack of belief we showed.

As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with you, although we should be fitting Eze into the team who will put a foot on it and lift his head, something Kouyate struggles with.

 

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View ATL Eagle's Profile ATL Eagle Flag Atlanta 05 Dec 21 7.24pm Send a Private Message to ATL Eagle Add ATL Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We miss them but it's more than that. We have been worked out, as we always would be. We are being pressed before we can press. Gallagher has been recognised as our main creative player and the link we always look for and he is being given no time and crowded out. This is now a real challenge for our management team. We weren't just second best today, we were third or fourth best. The ref and the crowd played better and we were lucky to get 0 goals the lack of belief we showed.

Basically agree with this analysis.
And the lack of Andersen as the one player in the back line who wants to push up and can pass with pinpoint accuracy.
And Jimmy Mac being an attack dog in midfield.

Wilf and Benteke are history. They need to be dropped, because they are not playing for the team. They are playing for themselves. Ayew is partially guilty of this too.
Olise needs to start but maybe someone should tell him his dead balls should clear the first defender.

 

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View ATL Eagle's Profile ATL Eagle Flag Atlanta 05 Dec 21 7.25pm Send a Private Message to ATL Eagle Add ATL Eagle as a friend

Kouyaté. I love him, and he loves Palace. But he is playing Royball. Can PV teach him to turn with the ball and look to play it forwards? If not, he has to go too.

 

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