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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jan 22 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Plus there's the inevitable England collapse. Only positive now will be to end Root's Captaincy and maybe get some actual young players in.

Ditto.

Couldn't be much worse.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Jan 22 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Only positive now will be to end Root's Captaincy and maybe get some actual young players in.

Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job?

Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be?

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job?

Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be?

Sorry for butting in but those are always quite exciting questions.

I think Crawley and Pope are pretty much nailed on England players when it comes to ability within our county system.....Hameed has definitely regressed since he first burst onto the scene and will need to rebuild significantly and for the second time.

When it comes to the 'then who' question I think back to the Hussain era. Back then we were also a very average to below average side in terms of worldwide talent but Hussain took that team and shook it. He made it far less of a 'buddy side' and more hard nosed and a difficult to beat team. I think England could do worse than to look around the county scene to see if that type is around now....Maybe Harry Brooks?.... I don't know....But Root seems to have proven himself as someone's mate rather than their captain.

Root is obviously the stand out batsman of this generation however that seems to have been as an exception to the system the ECB have created rather than because of it.

People talk and moan about the public sector and talk about golden pensions and the like....but the money that some have been paid in English management for the results that been produced just feels so wrong to me...They are the private sector but come across as much worse due to the money levels involved....it's out of synch with how merit/reward should work.

But what motive is there to change when deals ensure that the money is still high....just carry on giving a sad face to the media while the money still flows.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2022 3.45pm)

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Jan 22 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Sorry for butting in

Not at all as this is a forum for ideas after all.

I agree that a lot of the blame lies at the feet of the ECB but I doubt whether they will blame themselves

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jan 22 6.54pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Who would you have as captain bearing in mind that Stokes doesn't want the job?

Zak Crawley is 23 and Ollie Pope and Haseeb Hameed are both 24 so how much younger do you want the players to be?

It's younger pace bowlers I would like to see. I know Anderson is good and a hero but it's getting silly. I would like Robinson all day long, and Archer when he comes back, along with Stokes. For an unusual choice, I've been impressed with Mahmoud, who can now bowl at 90, has swing, seam and accuracy. Frankly, can't believe the selectors haven't noticed. Maybe he doesn't even want to play tests? Actually, the whole team look like they don't like tests. That's the first problem. A captain should sort that.
As for Captains, Stokes may say now he doesn't want it, but once Root steps down that could change.
Obviously, it's hard to know, Burns may be a risk that could work. Buttler has done himself no favours, he seems nether a good enough Wicky or Batsman. Something outside the box seems unlikely from the old boys network.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jan 22 11.07am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

English cricket can aptly be described as being in ashes at this point.

I tell you what, it must be nice to be paid so highly for being so poor at a job.

 


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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 16 Jan 22 11.11am Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

An absolutely pathetic display by our so called elite players.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 16 Jan 22 11.17am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I tell you what, it must be nice to be paid so highly for being so poor at a job.

Most of them will be receiving between half a million and a full million per year

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 16 Jan 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

What an absolute load of s***e.

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Most of them will be receiving between half a million and a full million per year

I feel for those paying to watch that.

 


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They gave up in at least two of the matches. Management and team have to all go, in my opinion. I used to like test cricket but finding it increasingly pointless. Basically, only India and Australia seem any good.
An interesting one is India, we say the one day game ruins our players. They have just as much one day as us, so do the Aussies. The issue is deeper.
From personal experience, they play a full day, or half a day cricket for PE in school in Australia. In England I rather doubt it. In India, people are born with a bat and ball in their hands. If they can't afford one, they make one somehow. They play anywhere, in any conditions. Then you have England - see much cricket on the streets?
A big question for me is, why don't the Asian population of the UK come through either? There is something going on and I'm not crying racism. I actually suspect family pressure, alliegance and economics are greater factors.
The ECB are to blame for basically never properly coordinating a long term plan.
In my own opinion, neither Rugby Union or Cricket have really grown in the way they were vaunted as to be doing. You still end up with only a few ex colonial teams playing. All the money sloshes around the boardrooms whilst the grass roots never really takes off.
The actual positives of both rugby and cricket is the women's game. Fair play to them, they've improved massively. I sometimes watch England women and never would have done ten years ago.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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To come from England and play in Australia you need time to acclimatise as well as game time to get used to the harder pitches. England to start with were well under prepared. The bowlers have skills but Wood aside most are only bowling at less than 140kph and that is when they are fresh. Even 4th change bowling all rounder for the Aussies bowls at over 140kph. Second part is England's bowlers are all right arm over the week making it easier for Aussie batsman. There are flaws in both batting lines up but more so in England's.
Butler was woeful behind the stumps and at least Billings looks like he can keep.
A fully firing Archer would have made a difference but Leach is not a test standard spin bowler.

Edited by viveasheagle (17 Jan 2022 7.57am)

 

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