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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 20 Jan 22 6.49pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Only the USA may tempt him, get Beckham on the phone

I can tell you one thing for 100% certain. If he goes to the USA, it won't be to Inter Miami (Beckham's team). They're mired in s*** for cheating the salary cap (and getting caught), burdened with massive fines, a limit on the number of players they can bring in, and all kinds of other penalties. Basically, for the next two years they're going to be able to do very little but play the kids.

 


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I have to say, I really don't get the Benteke hatred. The guy is serviceable, he scores a few goals, he plays with a smile on his face, he's clearly a net plus in the dressing room, and given that we don't really play to his strengths, he never complains. It seems some are stuck expecting him to return to the player of the Villa years, or have silly expectations because he came from Liverpool. It's somewhat similar with Ayew, another player who gets a ton of stick on here yet for me is consistently one of our better performers and who never fails to do what it says on the tin.

Sometimes I wonder about some of our supporters. Yes, every fan loves the flair players and Zaha, Gallagher, and their like will always win the hearts and minds first but the negative comments about Benteke and Ayew (among others) really rankle with me. A SQUAD is the sum of its parts; it takes all sorts to build a strong one; some stars, some leaders, some role players. In the latter category, Benteke and Ayew in particular deserve far more respect because they're by and large very good at the roles they're asked to play.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 20 Jan 22 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I have to say, I really don't get the Benteke hatred. The guy is serviceable, he scores a few goals, he plays with a smile on his face, he's clearly a net plus in the dressing room, and given that we don't really play to his strengths, he never complains. It seems some are stuck expecting him to return to the player of the Villa years, or have silly expectations because he came from Liverpool. It's somewhat similar with Ayew, another player who gets a ton of stick on here yet for me is consistently one of our better performers and who never fails to do what it says on the tin.

Sometimes I wonder about some of our supporters. Yes, every fan loves the flair players and Zaha, Gallagher, and their like will always win the hearts and minds first but the negative comments about Benteke and Ayew (among others) really rankle with me. A SQUAD is the sum of its parts; it takes all sorts to build a strong one; some stars, some leaders, some role players. In the latter category, Benteke and Ayew in particular deserve far more respect because they're by and large very good at the roles they're asked to play.

Except for their most important role which is scoring goals.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 20 Jan 22 8.30pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I have to say, I really don't get the Benteke hatred. The guy is serviceable, he scores a few goals, he plays with a smile on his face, he's clearly a net plus in the dressing room, and given that we don't really play to his strengths, he never complains. It seems some are stuck expecting him to return to the player of the Villa years, or have silly expectations because he came from Liverpool. It's somewhat similar with Ayew, another player who gets a ton of stick on here yet for me is consistently one of our better performers and who never fails to do what it says on the tin.

Sometimes I wonder about some of our supporters. Yes, every fan loves the flair players and Zaha, Gallagher, and their like will always win the hearts and minds first but the negative comments about Benteke and Ayew (among others) really rankle with me. A SQUAD is the sum of its parts; it takes all sorts to build a strong one; some stars, some leaders, some role players. In the latter category, Benteke and Ayew in particular deserve far more respect because they're by and large very good at the roles they're asked to play.

Ah Sydtheeagle, I find your posts eminently well reasoned, and accurate in their assumptions. Not this one though, it's as off target as a wayward Benteke missed sitter.
Ayew? Gets through a load of unglamorous work, supports the full back, presses hard, and couple of season ago scored more goals than Benteke in a team that wasn't renowned for scoring many. Benteke? Let's for a change not talk about cost or wages, let's talk about what he does on the pitch as a centre forward. Now for me a centre forward who misses as many sitters as Benteke does isn't much of a centre forward at all. He is often way off the pace, probably trying to find the pockets in his Benteke edition shorts while the action passes him by.
There's no comparison between Ayew and Benteke.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (20 Jan 2022 8.41pm)

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 20 Jan 22 8.48pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I have to say, I really don't get the Benteke hatred. The guy is serviceable, he scores a few goals, he plays with a smile on his face, he's clearly a net plus in the dressing room, and given that we don't really play to his strengths, he never complains. It seems some are stuck expecting him to return to the player of the Villa years, or have silly expectations because he came from Liverpool. It's somewhat similar with Ayew, another player who gets a ton of stick on here yet for me is consistently one of our better performers and who never fails to do what it says on the tin.

Sometimes I wonder about some of our supporters. Yes, every fan loves the flair players and Zaha, Gallagher, and their like will always win the hearts and minds first but the negative comments about Benteke and Ayew (among others) really rankle with me. A SQUAD is the sum of its parts; it takes all sorts to build a strong one; some stars, some leaders, some role players. In the latter category, Benteke and Ayew in particular deserve far more respect because they're by and large very good at the roles they're asked to play.

I'd respectfully disagree with this bit.

Massive fan of Ayew and what he gives us. And even those who kill him for his lack of goals cant fault his workrate and overall contribution.

Benteke on the other hand, never really feels like he's at the races, never giving it 100%. That doesnt mean that he doesnt contribute, because he does....a bit. But it just irks fans when it always feels like you are playing with 10 men. All of that would be ignored if he scored his chances, but he doesn't really do that either.

IMO the only real difference between the Villa Benteke and the Benteke we have now is desire.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 20 Jan 22 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Unfortunately Benteke only 'ups' tools 6 games before contract renewal. No pace, no passion, offload and recoup some cash. Mateta is better.

Nailed it!

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 20 Jan 22 9.36pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Ah Sydtheeagle, I find your posts eminently well reasoned, and accurate in their assumptions. Not this one though, it's as off target as a wayward Benteke missed sitter.
Ayew? Gets through a load of unglamorous work, supports the full back, presses hard, and couple of season ago scored more goals than Benteke in a team that wasn't renowned for scoring many. Benteke? Let's for a change not talk about cost or wages, let's talk about what he does on the pitch as a centre forward. Now for me a centre forward who misses as many sitters as Benteke does isn't much of a centre forward at all. He is often way off the pace, probably trying to find the pockets in his Benteke edition shorts while the action passes him by.
There's no comparison between Ayew and Benteke.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (20 Jan 2022 8.41pm)

In the main, fair enough comments though my comparison of Benteke and Ayew was ONLY in the amount of stick they get from fans; I wasn't comparing their effectiveness on the pitch. I completely agree with you that on that score, Ayew is far, far more valuable. However, I still don't think Benteke is as completely useless as you make out. I'm not saying many of your observations aren't valid, but overall as a squad striker, I continue to think we could do worse. I wouldn't deny that we could do better, too, particularly at Benteke's price.

 


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