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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 15 Jan 22 10.39am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

I know itís the way football is going, but playing out just for the sake of it is pointless.
We need to mix it up. The keeper needs to bang a few long. The other teams defence know we will roll it Anderson , who passes it side ways. A couple more passes and one of ours is normally under pressure and knocks it upfield anyway.
Itís good that we are comfortable on the ball at the back, but a couple of long kicks with the big lumps weíve got up front , with someone waiting for a flick on would surely be a better option sometimes.
First half against millwall we seemed to have bundles of possession , but not much that really mattered. Knocking it sideways then forward a bit, then back a bit, then sideways again. 20 seconds and we are back where we started, but panicking as the opposition forwards are chasing the ball down.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 15 Jan 22 10.48am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I am with you on this - its OK having a plan a, but an occasional use of plan b keeps people on their toes.

Originally posted by Casual

I know itís the way football is going, but playing out just for the sake of it is pointless.
We need to mix it up. The keeper needs to bang a few long. The other teams defence know we will roll it Anderson , who passes it side ways. A couple more passes and one of ours is normally under pressure and knocks it upfield anyway.
Itís good that we are comfortable on the ball at the back, but a couple of long kicks with the big lumps weíve got up front , with someone waiting for a flick on would surely be a better option sometimes.
First half against millwall we seemed to have bundles of possession , but not much that really mattered. Knocking it sideways then forward a bit, then back a bit, then sideways again. 20 seconds and we are back where we started, but panicking as the opposition forwards are chasing the ball down.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Jan 22 10.59am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

A style of play that needs the right type of player to implement it. In theory the CB should immediately look for the midfielder player in space, who with instant control can get things moving. A bit like having Iniesta, Xavi, and Messi to pass to.
Yesterday we had Schlupp in central midfield ha ha!

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Jan 22 11.41am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

I know itís the way football is going, but playing out just for the sake of it is pointless.
We need to mix it up. The keeper needs to bang a few long. The other teams defence know we will roll it Anderson , who passes it side ways. A couple more passes and one of ours is normally under pressure and knocks it upfield anyway.
Itís good that we are comfortable on the ball at the back, but a couple of long kicks with the big lumps weíve got up front , with someone waiting for a flick on would surely be a better option sometimes.
First half against millwall we seemed to have bundles of possession , but not much that really mattered. Knocking it sideways then forward a bit, then back a bit, then sideways again. 20 seconds and we are back where we started, but panicking as the opposition forwards are chasing the ball down.

Agree 100% we've become too predictable and we're not actually very good at it. Not sure we've the players.

Also going backwards and recycling the ball too much when we're in the opposition half.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jan 22 12.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I agree with the OP. We can have it as a style but there's a time and place. It didn't work when it went to Ward anyway, tends to only work with the second pass to Mitchell. However, without Zaha, he had no release. Hence the constant side to side and back passing. You need at least one focal point, ideally two or three. We had none last night. We were pretty lucky boys.
We also sat deep for too long. I thought Roy had made a comeback.
If you're deep and play out from the back, then you are struggling to get out of your own half already. Add in the opposition press and you're in for a hiding. We were lucky we didn't lose 3-1. Brighton will be gutted this morning.
If we do the same against Liverpool, we're in trouble. It is clear they press high and bring everyone up - leaving just Van Dyke back. Any armchair manager or even 6 year old fan, can see that you should pop it over the top to Liverpool. Especially down the wings. Turn the defenders is the obvious and not exactly rocket science tactic - no point in trying to match them with the exact same style but with worse players. We'll see won't we.

 


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View babylonjohn's Profile babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 15 Jan 22 1.43pm Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Brighton sussed us out and pressed our midfield so we had no out ball. We needed to be braver last night and push the whole team higher up the pitch.Then when we do manage to beat the press we are practically through on goal and they retreat backwards to defend their goal. Liverpool will press us similarly, they are missing some star players but it will still be tough.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent/Made in Bromley 15 Jan 22 2.38pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Iíve never liked it, it just gives us all heart attacks and feels like a disaster waiting to happen. But to be fair, weíre so much better at it than I thought weíd be, even Tommo who is more of a good old fashioned centre back did well with it.

Watching a lot of teams though, the point is to keep possession, but whatís the point when all you do is tippy tappy across the back, give everyone kittens, then end up giving the ball away anyway? usually in a dangerous position.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 15 Jan 22 3.23pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

May be able to pull it off v Hartlepool

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent/Made in Bromley 15 Jan 22 3.47pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

May be able to pull it off v Hartlepool

Doubt it, theyíll probably see it as a weakness and their forwards will be running around like headless chickens to put us under pressure

 

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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 15 Jan 22 5.47pm Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

Works well if you mix it up a bit with a penetratuing long ball over the top now and again - like Brighton were going last night.

To be avoided with Joel and Tommo in the team as neither of them seem to be able to pass the ball accurately.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent/Made in Bromley 15 Jan 22 6.07pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Works well if you mix it up a bit with a penetratuing long ball over the top now and again - like Brighton were going last night.

To be avoided with Joel and Tommo in the team as neither of them seem to be able to pass the ball accurately.

I think tommo did okay considering having the ball at his feet and passing are not his strong points

 

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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 15 Jan 22 6.15pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Also, this gets to me. We get a free kick either on the edge of the half way line or just in the opponents half and we then pass it sideways, then back to a defender. Then when under pressure it goes back to the keeper who passes it to a defender who under pressure lumps it forward and the opponents get the ball back. Okay, it doesnít happen all the time but itís so frustrating. Whatís wrong with passing it forward or lifting it to our forward players to hopefully start an attack. Yes, we might lose it earlier to our opponents but at least we can press and put them under pressure. Rant (if thatís what it is) over :-)

 

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