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View AndyMann's Profile AndyMann Flag Rhyl 31 Jan 22 12.26pm Send a Private Message to AndyMann Add AndyMann as a friend

Thoughts!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 31 Jan 22 12.34pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

None; and unless we have been haggling for a while, no chance a club like palace will battle it out with other clubs in some unedifying last day winter fist fight.

 

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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 31 Jan 22 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Any deal for Barkley would have to be permanent as you can’t loan more than one player from same premier league team.

Not sure why’d we want either to be honest

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag 31 Jan 22 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Everton are also in for Dele Alli , so thats the end of that . We should really check the phones for bugs. Or maybe we have a mole in our ranks .

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 31 Jan 22 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Everton are also in for Dele Alli , so thats the end of that

Why? Van de beek probably picked Everton over us as it meant he wouldn't have to move house. Perhaps Alli would choose us over Everton for the same reason

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 31 Jan 22 1.10pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Leaving aside whether I think either or both of these two are desirable targets, I do wonder if we might not get into a last-minute pissing match for Barkley, Alli, or even Lingard.

I say this simply because it's clear from the pursuits of Ramsay and Van De Beek, neither of which came off, that it seems like Vieira does want a "high-quality creative/attacking midfielder" and it may just be that the board want to keep him happy. If that's so, these are probably the three options that could be considered in play at the last minute.

I don't expect any of these to come in but in view of the above, I wouldn't be totally gobsmacked if one of them did. Patrick's made it quite clear he would like someone to refresh things this window. The board may just be inclined to give him what he wants if the right deal can be struck.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 31 Jan 22 1.10pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

TBF I don't know why Everton would want JVDB and Ali. Would play the same position.

I'd be very interested in Barkley. He's wasted the best years of his career moving to Chelsea. Not sure if its a slight on his ability that he cant get in ahead of Jorginho or Kante.

I'd take him over Ramsey

 

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Originally posted by MrRobbo

TBF I don't know why Everton would want JVDB and Ali. Would play the same position.

I'd be very interested in Barkley. He's wasted the best years of his career moving to Chelsea. Not sure if its a slight on his ability that he cant get in ahead of Jorginho or Kante.

I'd take him over Ramsey

Seems Rangers have got him, having medical according to Sky.

 


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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 31 Jan 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Wouldn't be interested in either.

Neither play in a position that fits our system and both have barely played for a year, so would need several matches to get up to speed.

Even van der Beek, who is an absolute upgrade on our midfield, would have been a risky signing. All 3 have barely played in 2 years, would take at least 5-6 games to git up to speed/match sharp, by which point 1/3 of their loan has gone.

With Brentford and Norwich up next, if we were to bring anyone in, especially on their wages, they would need to be able to hit the ground running.

IF we did any business today, I'd much rather it was focused on players who can be bedded in for next season than spend £100k+ p/w on a player that we can't keep and are unsure of how quickly they could make an impact.

I'd love us to be competing with Liverpool for Fabio Carvalho on the basis of offering more first team opportunities than them, even if it was buying him and loaning him back for rest of season.

I'd also love to see us bring in someone like Sander Berge, who would fit our system perfectly and ease him into the first team for next system after his injuries - on the proviso medical is fine - instead of taking on another stop gap for the rest of the season. It'll be hard enough to replace Gallagher in the summer, without adding another loan CM to the mix.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Jan 22 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

TBF I don't know why Everton would want JVDB and Ali. Would play the same position.

I'd be very interested in Barkley. He's wasted the best years of his career moving to Chelsea. Not sure if its a slight on his ability that he cant get in ahead of Jorginho or Kante.

I'd take him over Ramsey

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 31 Jan 22 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

If either were firing on all cylinders they would be getting games at their clubs which would rather suggest both are spent (it happens) and on the way down rather than players on the way up which are the ones we should be looking at .

For the right price though ?

 


And we still need a striker

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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 31 Jan 22 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

I agree with this. No high priced loans in midfield, not worth it.

Also, Barkley and Alli have been two of my least favourite players. Maybe playing for Palace would change that, but I doubt it.

Originally posted by JohnB

Wouldn't be interested in either.

Neither play in a position that fits our system and both have barely played for a year, so would need several matches to get up to speed.

Even van der Beek, who is an absolute upgrade on our midfield, would have been a risky signing. All 3 have barely played in 2 years, would take at least 5-6 games to git up to speed/match sharp, by which point 1/3 of their loan has gone.

With Brentford and Norwich up next, if we were to bring anyone in, especially on their wages, they would need to be able to hit the ground running.

IF we did any business today, I'd much rather it was focused on players who can be bedded in for next season than spend £100k+ p/w on a player that we can't keep and are unsure of how quickly they could make an impact.

I'd love us to be competing with Liverpool for Fabio Carvalho on the basis of offering more first team opportunities than them, even if it was buying him and loaning him back for rest of season.

I'd also love to see us bring in someone like Sander Berge, who would fit our system perfectly and ease him into the first team for next system after his injuries - on the proviso medical is fine - instead of taking on another stop gap for the rest of the season. It'll be hard enough to replace Gallagher in the summer, without adding another loan CM to the mix.

 

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