Especially since offering 5000-1 on Leicester winning a certain PL title.

Perspective is needed fellow fans. For example:
1. We are averaging just over a point a game which if we continue to do will see us with at least 40 points.
2. We are currently 8 points clear of 18th place (and 6 clear of 16th!)
3. The only one of the 7 teams below to have beaten us so far is Leeds in a game we should have taken something from.
4. We still have to play 6 of those 7 teams (with Watford twice)
5. Whilst it is true that we have failed to win in our last 4 league games, it is also the case that:
- Brentford have lost their last 5
- Everton have lost their last 4
- neither Burnley nor Watford have won in their last 5.
Yes some of these clubs have a game or more in hand but that's no good to them if they can't win them, which on current form seems to be the case,

There is no need to panic because we are NOT currently in a relegation scrap.

I’m in agreement here Willo, currently we are on the edge of the relegation scrap and we still have to play those below us and theses games will not be easy as theses teams are fighting for their PL status. Another concern is the inability of our striker to score goals!

Everton can't get much worse. Aside from Richarlison they were woeful against Newcastle and could have lost by more and Newcastle didn't even look that good. What is Lampard going to do to fix them is the question as they have now lost to us, Norwich, Brighton and Brentford in recent times without barely putting up a fight.

Howe seems to have worked on Newcastle's fitness to compensate for a lack of quality and they didn't stop running the whole game. Having said that, you take ASM out of the team and they still look short on quality up top without Wilson. Wood has been useless so far in the games I've seen.

Despite not taking three points again I still think we look much better as a team than all the teams below us, some by quite a margin. If we play to the best of our abilities then I think we can pick up 6-9 points by the time we play Newcastle in mid-March by which point a win in that game could see us all but safe.

One thing I will say is that Vieira has never come across as a man aiming for PL safety rather one with loftier ambitions. I reckon for him anything less than a top 10 finish or the cup final would be seen as a failure, whereas for many of us staying up having played by far the best football in years would be enough. I genuinely cannot understand anyone who can be unhappy with Vieira or the team right now, unless they only started supporting Palace this season.

Your last few words are probably true. New fans have only known the PL. My lad of 25 gets it as I have told him about our past history in div 2 against your grimsbys and readings etc. It helps that my pals have all explained how s***e we once were as well

You obviously didn’t sit through many games in the Roy Hodgson era

Made in Bromley

Bloody Hell! Some common sense! Where do you come from?