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W12 29 Jun 22 5.34pm

This is a railway junction coming out of the factory.

If they thought the factory was manufacturing or storing weapons then it was clearly a military target.

Zoom in and you can see the tracks.

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W12 29 Jun 22 5.36pm

Here is the strike which is clearly not hitting the mall. The previous photo shows that the shopping centre was not hit by a missile but set on fire by the blast or stored munitions.

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W12 29 Jun 22 5.38pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Well you seem to relentlessly attack your country and the West, and are free to do so, so count your blessings. If you think you live in such a hell hole go to Russia and 'speak your mind' there are see how you get on.

You cannot make a distinction between the people living in the west and the regime that currently runs it.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 5.45pm

Originally posted by W12

Eh?

See attached and also note that the BBC video that "shows missile striking shopping mall" doesn't show a missile striking a shopping mall.

The Amstor mall was next door to the Kredmash factory that makes heavy machinery and the Russains claim is was being used to store ammunition/weapons. If so, it was a legitimate military target.

Perpetually unable to criticise Russia, and yet endless criticism for the West, a relentlessly negative take on Ukranians defending their country, and propoganda such as forced prisoner of war 'confessions' as your 'truth'.


Justin Crump, defence analyst and CEO of Sibylline, said these missiles have "radar-seeker heads designed to pick out targets in scenes of high contrast, such as a ship at sea.

"It is next to useless in a clustered urban centre, where it relies on near obsolete guidance systems to reach the target," he said.

"I'd estimate 200 metre plus errors remain likely when used against this sort of urban target, versus for example a clearly defined bridge that stands out against the background."

Perhaps you need to revisit what target and targetted team if you think firing such missiles in any way factors in concern for civilian life. If Ukraine or the West randomly started firing highly innacurate missiles into heavily populated civilian areas of Russia, would you be as criticism free of them? For someone who uses the word 'provocation' towards absolutely any action of other nations aside from Russia, the contrasting standards you apply are laughable.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.19pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 5.56pm

Originally posted by W12

Here is the strike which is clearly not hitting the mall. The previous photo shows that the shopping centre was not hit by a missile but set on fire by the blast or stored munitions.

Edited by W12 (29 Jun 2022 5.37pm)


The video in no way represents what you're claiming. There is clearly a building in the corner of the picture, and from the reports and footage (this, people running from scene etc) it certainly doesn't seem unlikely that it causes significant damage.

That a fire spread from hit stored munitions, is the Russian seeded line, which of course you again lap up as fact despite no evidence of it. Considering how inaccurate these missiles are, your outlook to contort events away from anything that ever directly suggests Russia is nonplussed by civilians death, looks even more ludicrous than usual.


Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.21pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 6.02pm

Originally posted by W12

You cannot make a distinction between the people living in the west and the regime that currently runs it.

As I already stated, you defend a murderous regime that would soon shut you up if behaved there in the equivilent way, so if you're so against the decisions made by western governments, realise what you give a complete free pass to there. You're a Kremlin propoganda vessel, passing himself off as an alt-media 'freethinker'..

On here the other day complaining about your pension going down, then 'globalists' the next minute. You're more plugged into the system you appear to hate and its interests than most. Go live in a hut or on an island if you're so against corporations, 'globalists' and western governments. Or at least don't whine about your shares.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.25pm)

 

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W12 29 Jun 22 6.24pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

As I already stated, you defend a murderous regime that would soon shut you up if behaved there in the equivilent way, so if you're so against the decisions made by western governments, realise what you give a complete free pass to there. You're a Kremlin propoganda vessel, passing himself off as an alt-media 'freethinker'..

On here the other day complaining about your pension going down, then 'globalists' the next minute. You're more plugged into the system you appear to hate and its interests than most. Go live in a hut or on an island if you're so against corporations, 'globalists' and western governments. Or at least don't whine about your shares.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.09pm)

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.23pm)

Wow, you really are obsessed with me

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 6.29pm

Originally posted by W12

Wow, you really are obsessed with me

Weird narcissistic comment. I'm referencing another post you made that contradicts your outlook. You're obsessed with bending over to Kremlin edicts (and apparently not even realising it), so if you want obsessed then look to that conduct.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.33pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 6.35pm

Japan hails Sweden's "historic" decision to join NATO - Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida welcomed Sweden's "historic" decision to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and agreed with his Swedish counterpart to oppose any unilateral use of force to change the status quo amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.36pm)

 

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W12 29 Jun 22 6.45pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Weird narcissistic comment. I'm referencing another post you made that contradicts your outlook. You're obsessed with bending over to Kremlin edicts (and apparently not even realising it), so if you want obsessed then look to that conduct.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.33pm)

Sorry but massive LOL

 

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W12 29 Jun 22 6.49pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Japan hails Sweden's "historic" decision to join NATO - Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida welcomed Sweden's "historic" decision to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and agreed with his Swedish counterpart to oppose any unilateral use of force to change the status quo amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.36pm)

You don’t seem to realise why Russia invaded Ukraine.

Stay stupid.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 29 Jun 22 6.52pm

Originally posted by W12

Sorry but massive LOL

Keep laughing it up, you're the one with identikit versions of events based on what the Kremlin pumps out, as fact.. You are today, you are every other day. As I say you do this to the point where you use even British prisoners or war under threat of death as warped, forced propoganda. Yeah, you're really about 'your people' aren't you. Zero allegiance. More 'edict head' than anything I'd say.


Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 6.54pm)

Originally posted by W12

You don’t seem to realise why Russia invaded Ukraine.

As if Ukraine would've been given full NATO membership anyway. The West has been measured precisely because they know how off the handle Russia can be. We can hardly therefore blame Sweden and Finland for seeking membership, and we should certainly defend them and their people if attacked.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jun 2022 7.23pm)

 

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