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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Apr 22 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Believe me, being “bound” by agreements in the past has meant nothing. Very few EU countries complied with the Dublin Convention, when it came to removing people to the country they had arrived from. In fact the UK were probably the best at this. I know you might not like to hear this but it is fact

Being unaware of the "Dublin Regulation" I did a little research. It was obviously not working and was replaced. Unsurprising, really, given the way the problems have multiplied. It remains very complicated. I found this informative:-

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None of this though changes my view that the only way we can get any kind of handle on illegal immigration of the kind we are seeing now is via close co-operation with our neighbours. That Brexit has made achieving that more difficult seems obvious, to me at least.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Apr 22 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A statement that you would expect from an incurable Remainer.

Whether it has contributed or not, any negative effect will be worth it to rid ourselves of Brussels.

If you can't spot that negative effect between the fuel prices, food shortages, inflation and the rest of the stuff we know the cause of then it can't be very significant now can it.

Is the view of the incurable, some might say incapable, Leaver.

People who think shooting themselves in the foot, because they don't like the shape of their toes, is a good idea, are hardly capable of making informed value judgements on this, are they?

For sure, there's lots of "stuff" going on. That's the problem when trying to measure the Brexit impact. But impact there is. That's why we will show the lowest growth in the G7 next year. The others face the same problems. Minus Brexit. Not difficult to work that out, is it?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Apr 22 7.28am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is the view of the incurable, some might say incapable, Leaver.

People who think shooting themselves in the foot, because they don't like the shape of their toes, is a good idea, are hardly capable of making informed value judgements on this, are they?

For sure, there's lots of "stuff" going on. That's the problem when trying to measure the Brexit impact. But impact there is. That's why we will show the lowest growth in the G7 next year. The others face the same problems. Minus Brexit. Not difficult to work that out, is it?

It is perhaps the most predictable thing ever that someone like you would try to blame every negative on Brexit.

It makes no difference. We are out, and long may we stay out.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 Apr 22 9.30am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Pray for Linton-on-Ouse

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 23 Apr 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Being unaware of the "Dublin Regulation" I did a little research. It was obviously not working and was replaced. Unsurprising, really, given the way the problems have multiplied. It remains very complicated. I found this informative:-

[Link]

None of this though changes my view that the only way we can get any kind of handle on illegal immigration of the kind we are seeing now is via close co-operation with our neighbours. That Brexit has made achieving that more difficult seems obvious, to me at least.

But my point has been, prior to Brexit it was difficult to get cooperation from certain EU countries. This is from my first hand experience.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 22 9.14am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But my point has been, prior to Brexit it was difficult to get cooperation from certain EU countries. This is from my first hand experience.

Experience which you know I trust and value.

I don't doubt that was true. My own experience of the French was they always put their own interests first. Nothing is perfect, but anything that helps is better than nothing helping. Brexit hasn't helped us secure EU help.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 22 9.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is perhaps the most predictable thing ever that someone like you would try to blame every negative on Brexit.

It makes no difference. We are out, and long may we stay out.

When I am clearly not doing that, the above comment reaches a new level of ridiculousness.

The pandemic, the energy crisis and Putin's war all have nothing to do with Brexit, but they all impact our economy.

Brexit just makes it worse. Yes, we are out. The lunatics succeeded in taking over the asylum. How long we stay out is as yet unknown. The way things are going, it may well not be as long as you hope.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Apr 22 9.36am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

When I am clearly not doing that, the above comment reaches a new level of ridiculousness.

The pandemic, the energy crisis and Putin's war all have nothing to do with Brexit, but they all impact our economy.

Brexit just makes it worse. Yes, we are out. The lunatics succeeded in taking over the asylum. How long we stay out is as yet unknown. The way things are going, it may well not be as long as you hope.

You have no evidence for that whatsoever, and you clearly have no understanding of why people wanted to leave the EU.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Apr 22 10.13am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Pray for Linton-on-Ouse

Sod Linton on Ouse what about Henley On Thames.

You have to feel for the people there I mean where will they get their nannies, maids, gardeners and Baristas. All those selfish people who voted to leave.

 


One more point

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 22 11.27am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You have no evidence for that whatsoever, and you clearly have no understanding of why people wanted to leave the EU.

Increased Bureaucracy isn't evidence? Fishermen no longer being able to export due to regulations being imposed being an example. NI difficulties aren't evidence?

I understand why some people, with a lack of vision and feet of clay, wanted to leave. I understand why many others were sold fake promises and duped by the usual attraction of jam tomorrow and green grass in the next field. I understand why 48% of people didn't think like that, or buy the snake oil.

Do you understand that only a small number are actually the kind of "Brexit at any cost", leaver that you are?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Apr 22 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Increased Bureaucracy isn't evidence? Fishermen no longer being able to export due to regulations being imposed being an example. NI difficulties aren't evidence?

I understand why some people, with a lack of vision and feet of clay, wanted to leave. I understand why many others were sold fake promises and duped by the usual attraction of jam tomorrow and green grass in the next field. I understand why 48% of people didn't think like that, or buy the snake oil.

Do you understand that only a small number are actually the kind of "Brexit at any cost", leaver that you are?

Our current circumstances are no different to most Western countries.
The cost so far has not been very significant, and certainly nowhere near the kind of scaremongering nonsense that people like you were peddling, and in your case still are.

 

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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 23 Apr 22 2.37pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Anyone been sent to Rwanda yet?

 

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