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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 21 Apr 22 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I think it's clear that Mitchell is still not quite fit following his injury against Leicester and should probably not have played last night to give him a rest. Olise was probably rushed back too quickly and Edouard looked like JPM when he first came back into the team, having not played for ages.

It's also not hard to understand that following the hugely disappointing loss in the semi, for a group of younger players, to then have to travel to the other end of the country 3 days later for amatch against the team that since January has recorded the second most points in the league was never going to be easy.

Had last nights game been played with a couple more days rest, I think we would have seen a completely different side from us.

I don't think Viera is the type of person who would allow the players to switch off and I think we just lost to 3 good teams under difficult circumstances. Leicester with one eye on the cup match and then no real recovery time after Chelsea match.

At least we now have a longer break before Leeds on Monday.


Fair points.

Yeah I've got no issues over Vieira's motivation but I just felt that Saint-Maximin, in particular, was livelier than our entire front four last night and we didn't really pick up until McArthur came on in the second half.

Our last six games are all very winnable so I just think it would be a shame to slip down the league rather than finishing strongly in mid-table.

 


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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Do you mean Mikael Forssell?

or Aki - even better!

 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 22 Apr 22 11.21am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Talk about a storm in a tea cup. We could have beaten or drawn against Necastle and Leicester and it wouldn’t have not been deserved. We lost both games by fine margins. Arsenal lost 3 in a row, Southampton lost 6 out of 8 and on it goes.

This league is ruthless and there are no guaranteed points. No need for the dramatics and panic.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Apr 22 11.27am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Talk about a storm in a tea cup. We could have beaten or drawn against Necastle and Leicester and it wouldn’t have not been deserved. We lost both games by fine margins. Arsenal lost 3 in a row, Southampton lost 6 out of 8 and on it goes.

This league is ruthless and there are no guaranteed points. No need for the dramatics and panic.

I am known on HOL for being a glumbucket and an Elijah of Doom but even I am relaxed about our prospects this season.

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 23 Apr 22 4.18am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

I don't think there's a chance of us being relegated, but I do think there's a reasonable chance of us finishing in 16th place, which would be a complete embarrassment given the positive vibes we've had this season.

Basically, if we finish 16th, all the goodwill we've had this year will be lost, and we'll be a relegation favorite for 22/23.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 23 Apr 22 7.18am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We played Leicester just before the Chelsea game and perhaps had one eye on the semi-final.

We played Newcastle after that semi-final and as I articulated prior to the game there was every chance that the Wembley game would take its toll both physically and mentally, besides we had to make the long trip up north.

Willo my ol' son, we played Leicester A WHOLE WEEK before the semi-final, which was the club's longest non-playing gap before any FA Cup semi that we've participated in.

I think we are in a fair position that reflects how good we are relative to all the other clubs in the PL, rather than how good lots of people like to think we are.

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Apr 22 8.00am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

We didn't even have a chance against Chelsea, because of a ridiculous line up and pathetic substitution's, against Newcastle poor selection and poor substitutions, Why does Ayew have to automatically come on when Olise goes off, Mateta could have come on, Edouard left, Wilf Right, but no same old same old

 


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Originally posted by YT

Willo my ol' son, we played Leicester A WHOLE WEEK before the semi-final, which was the club's longest non-playing gap before any FA Cup semi that we've participated in.

I think we are in a fair position that reflects how good we are relative to all the other clubs in the PL, rather than how good lots of people like to think we are.

Yes. This is what I was suggesting in a previous post, particularly in relation to our bang average midfield. The position we end up in will accurately reflect our season as a whole. How could it be otherwise? I'll mention again that it is ironic that our best player this season is a loanee. It shows how much there is to do if we wish to break into the top ten.
That said, I think this season has been relatively successful overall.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Apr 22 8.50am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Willo my ol' son, we played Leicester A WHOLE WEEK before the semi-final, which was the club's longest non-playing gap before any FA Cup semi that we've participated in.

I think we are in a fair position that reflects how good we are relative to all the other clubs in the PL, rather than how good lots of people like to think we are.

Indeed I appreciate this.
The thrust of my message was that our last game prior to the Chelsea encounter was against Leicester and we might well have had an eye on the semi-final at Wembley.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

Indeed I appreciate this.
The thrust of my message was that our last game prior to the Chelsea encounter was against Leicester and we might well have had an eye on the semi-final at Wembley.

The "thrust" was somewhat deflected by the "just".

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Apr 22 9.28am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by YT

The "thrust" was somewhat deflected by the "just".

I trust that my overall message was understood in terms of a game prior to an FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley.

In the final analysis, I am of a certain vintage and shrink-wrapping individual words is not my forte with words spat out like olive pips from a troublesome pizza slice.

Edited by Willo (23 Apr 2022 9.28am)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Apr 22 11.03am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

I don't think there's a chance of us being relegated, but I do think there's a reasonable chance of us finishing in 16th place, which would be a complete embarrassment given the positive vibes we've had this season.

Basically, if we finish 16th, all the goodwill we've had this year will be lost, and we'll be a relegation favorite for 22/23.

All the time Vieira is in charge, the media will be right behind us.
That was always a certainty.

All that actually matters for the team is annual investment in better players.

 

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