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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Apr 22 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This is potentially one of the most outrageous pieces of legislation ever.

The people of this country cannot stand for this kind of restriction on freedom of speech.
Effectively, the government could decide what you can and can't say on the internet because it might be 'harmful'.

Does anyone see where this is going and why?

They want to screw us over and stop us objecting to it. It is that simple.
You could soon be prosecuted for stating an opinion with no law broken.

Did we just wake up in a parallel dystopian universe?

Has Boris suddenly grown a sinister beard?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Apr 2022 1.00pm)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 29 Apr 22 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is potentially one of the most outrageous pieces of legislation ever.

The people of this country cannot stand for this kind of restriction on freedom of speech.
Effectively, the government could decide what you can and can't say on the internet because it might be 'harmful'.

Does anyone see where this is going and why?

They want to screw us over and stop us objecting to it. It is that simple.
You could soon be prosecuted for stating an opinion with no law broken.

Did we just wake up in a parallel dystopian universe?

Has Boris suddenly grown a sinister beard?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Apr 2022 1.00pm)

We’re going down a dark road.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 29 Apr 22 2.03pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

A similar issue as the Policing Bill that just passed the Lords that I posted about earlier. I'm all for people making bellends of themselves on the Internet, but I don't think that there should be ill defined and subjectively applied legal consequences for opinion or protest - which is pretty much what this comes down to.

Government set left against right, and right against left in order to push this stuff through. People feel like they've 'got one over' on their imagined 'opposites' without considering that the exact same laws will inevitably be used against them too, so are a detriment to society as a whole. Both as bad as each other really which is why stuff like this doesn't even make waves, while people lose their minds over which bathroom a tranny is using, or want to cancel others based on comments from 279 year ago. Directed outrage.

These are non partisan issues at their core but are painted as anything but to push them through and gift more power to government.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 29 Apr 22 2.08pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I'm still protesting the fine I received for drunkenly singing "We're by far the greatest team, the world..".

Apparently, that opinion only became offensive once I had got to the end of "And it's Cryyyyystal Palace". I was asked to apologise, and make amends, to all supporters of other London clubs within earshot that evening.

I await my day in court but for all the jest, it does seem as though we are heading that way.

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 29 Apr 22 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'm still protesting the fine I received for drunkenly singing "We're by far the greatest team, the world..".

Apparently, that opinion only became offensive once I had got to the end of "And it's Cryyyyystal Palace". I was asked to apologise, and make amends, to all supporters of other London clubs within earshot that evening.

I await my day in court but for all the jest, it does seem as though we are heading that way.

The Trades Descriptions Act might come into play as well.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Apr 22 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A similar issue as the Policing Bill that just passed the Lords that I posted about earlier. I'm all for people making bellends of themselves on the Internet, but I don't think that there should be ill defined and subjectively applied legal consequences for opinion or protest - which is pretty much what this comes down to.

Government set left against right, and right against left in order to push this stuff through. People feel like they've 'got one over' on their imagined 'opposites' without considering that the exact same laws will inevitably be used against them too, so are a detriment to society as a whole. Both as bad as each other really which is why stuff like this doesn't even make waves, while people lose their minds over which bathroom a tranny is using, or want to cancel others based on comments from 279 year ago. Directed outrage.

These are non partisan issues at their core but are painted as anything but to push them through and gift more power to government.

This is nothing less than subjugation.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 29 Apr 22 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It been said long ago and many times before this day but tyranny is ultimately what neo and social liberalism leads to. Since Blair these restrictions have been introduced.

The Tories are an utter disgrace. No real Tory agrees with this.

The western forms of social conservatism gave this country its best eras.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 30 Apr 22 2.27am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Those who conjure and validate their own intrusions on freedoms via angle x, criticise those who do so via angle y. I prefer neither.

As I say, these are non partisan issues at their core. Where do pantomime pr!ck politics lead us? Nowhere. Life isn't 'SIMS'. It involves the real world, real people and compromise with others. Going all in on constructed narratives that separate favours the government, not the people and leads us to precisely where we're unfortunately at right now. I have plenty in common with the decent of the left and right that isn't solely keyed into government and media (mainstream or 'alternative') pushed 'social issues' that intentionally obscure and detach us from genuine shared concerns. The 'take as you find' approach trumps all of this nonsense, but most often nowadays people forget that as there is almost always a keyboard in front of them rather than a person.

Edited by BlueJay (30 Apr 2022 3.39pm)

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 30 Apr 22 2.41am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is nothing less than subjugation.

No matter this take or that take politically, you're right. The powers that be are playing us and we all need to wake up to that. I would much rather massively disagree and argue with an actual person who I politically disagree with, than be descended upon by a government with a subjective / arbitrary take that they decide to blot out and criminalise. It's a power issue rather than a political or opinion based one. People are caught up in 'teams' sh!t, but whether left or right, they (government) don't care. We fall into their trap. It's genuinely tragic and extremely dispiriting. We're tying our own noose.

Edited by BlueJay (30 Apr 2022 2.24pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 30 Apr 22 6.15am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

The ironic karma will be the very people shouting for this will be the very same that eventually fall foul of it.
A bit like the left eating the left but this will be all eating all. It will happen as there is no safe place for anyone.

 

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