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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 May 22 1.42pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

we all know that is normal in World Football.

Having just proven ourselves mustard in this League...our manager, our squad etc. Do we now fear getting robbed ?

maybe ok if they pay us off, but very hurtful when no money exchanges hands.


You may hate the top 6 clubs, but pause and reflect on the average Championship club when Crystal Palace gets on the phone.

My biggest fear is PV and Arsenal. But wanted to keep the thread open to all discussions.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 25 May 22 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


It would help if sell-on fees were mandatory; it doesn't help that the money clubs can pick up players for peanuts and move them on for X millions.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 May 22 2.36pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

To be fair, I can't think of a single time we've been truly 'mugged off' barring the fees both Sakho and Benteke commanded vs their overall contribution.

I think that owes a lot to the business acumen of Parish and co. Made a bit of dosh on Zaha and a lot off AWB at the very least and have yet to pay over the odds for anyone really. I'm sure we paid a bit of money for an absolute flop Norwegian striker at one point but £1000's of pounds and hours of therapy have put that to the back, if not out of my mind

 


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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 25 May 22 2.56pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

I don't see PV as being someone who will just cut and run or even let sentimentality play that much of a part in any of his decisions. He's always been very keen to downplay any historic connections, like us playing Spurs and it meaning more due to his Arsenal days, and has always been incredibly respectful and mindful of addressing everything as manager of CPFC, rather than Viera the ex-player.

I think he is enjoying it here and has the mindset and desire to stay here for a while before moving on. This is also his first season with us and there is no guarantee that it will be just as good next year.

I think the bigger risk is clubs coming in for our more saleable assets. The likes of Guehi, Olise, Anderson and Mitchell. If a club comes in with a silly offer then it will be something the club has to consider and manage carefully.

I'd love to see players like Olise, Guehi, Eze, Mitchell etc. all stay and grow at the club and take us to the next level. However, I am realistic enough to know that if off the back of a season where Olise showed glimpses of incredible potential and skill, if an offer for £60m came in for him when we had just bought him for £8m and it would allow us to bring in 4 more players to improve the team, we couldn't turn that down.

The big plus for me is that we seem to now have in place a structure and team that is capable of identifying and acquiring players with huge potential and the ability to improve the team. That team is also now complimented by a manager that is willing to embrace and utilise those players too.

We're creating an excellent model where we are replicating Leicester, buying unproven, young players with huge potential for low fees and them selling them on for huge numbers later on.

So let the 'bigger' clubs come in and offer us huge fees for our gems. If we sell one player for huge profit every year to then fund bringing in 3-4 new players with similar sell on potential and the ability to fund improvements to the club, then I am all for it. There will come a point where the sales have funded the club enough to have a team full of players that are at a level where they won't want to go anywhere and we don't need to sell.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 25 May 22 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

From a position of 12th in the PL we are in a position where we could be both robbed of star players by those above us & we could just as likely be seen as the robber by the clubs below us-

 

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View nhp61's Profile nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 25 May 22 4.28pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

From a position of 12th in the PL we are in a position where we could be both robbed of star players by those above us & we could just as likely be seen as the robber by the clubs below us-

A fair few Reading fans around here reckon we robbed Olise from them.


 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 25 May 22 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

A fair few Reading fans around here reckon we robbed Olise from them.


Hard to deny in retrospect.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 25 May 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I don't see PV as being someone who will just cut and run or even let sentimentality play that much of a part in any of his decisions. He's always been very keen to downplay any historic connections, like us playing Spurs and it meaning more due to his Arsenal days, and has always been incredibly respectful and mindful of addressing everything as manager of CPFC, rather than Viera the ex-player.

I think he is enjoying it here and has the mindset and desire to stay here for a while before moving on. This is also his first season with us and there is no guarantee that it will be just as good next year.

I think the bigger risk is clubs coming in for our more saleable assets. The likes of Guehi, Olise, Anderson and Mitchell. If a club comes in with a silly offer then it will be something the club has to consider and manage carefully.

I'd love to see players like Olise, Guehi, Eze, Mitchell etc. all stay and grow at the club and take us to the next level. However, I am realistic enough to know that if off the back of a season where Olise showed glimpses of incredible potential and skill, if an offer for £60m came in for him when we had just bought him for £8m and it would allow us to bring in 4 more players to improve the team, we couldn't turn that down.

The big plus for me is that we seem to now have in place a structure and team that is capable of identifying and acquiring players with huge potential and the ability to improve the team. That team is also now complimented by a manager that is willing to embrace and utilise those players too.

We're creating an excellent model where we are replicating Leicester, buying unproven, young players with huge potential for low fees and them selling them on for huge numbers later on.

So let the 'bigger' clubs come in and offer us huge fees for our gems. If we sell one player for huge profit every year to then fund bringing in 3-4 new players with similar sell on potential and the ability to fund improvements to the club, then I am all for it. There will come a point where the sales have funded the club enough to have a team full of players that are at a level where they won't want to go anywhere and we don't need to sell.

Good post JB. I agree.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 25 May 22 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I am realistic enough to know that if off the back of a season where Olise showed glimpses of incredible potential and skill, if an offer for £60m came in for him when we had just bought him for £8m and it would allow us to bring in 4 more players to improve the team, we couldn't turn that down.

That is assuming that the proceeds would be used to strengthen the squad as last time we sold a player for a huge amount the proceeds were used to repay shareholder loans

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 25 May 22 8.18pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

A fair few Reading fans around here reckon we robbed Olise from them.


We could have waited and got him free; now thatís robbery !

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That is assuming that the proceeds would be used to strengthen the squad as last time we sold a player for a huge amount the proceeds were used to repay shareholder loans

The thing is that Olise gets 34K a week and 4 players in would probably cost about 200k a week

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 26 May 22 10.20am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

A fair few Reading fans around here reckon we robbed Olise from them.


That is Readings fault, he wanted to play on a bigger stage and Reading arenít going to be in the Premier anytime soon.

 

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