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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 09 Aug 22 8.07am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We were very reliant on experienced players playing in a way that was far from adventurous.We are now playing in a different manner.
Milivojevic does not contribute as he did, McArthur is now 35 and injury prone etc etc.
We have lost the energy and aggression of Gallagher in that midfield 'Engine room', Kouyate with that ability to break up the play, and of course as I have stated McArthur has his injury woes.
I really don't think that Hughes or Riedewald provide that PL quality and Clyne and Ward are hardly getting any younger.
Central strikers Mateta and Eduoard have averaged a goal every 5 games in the PL.
Patrick Vieira has commented that the squad needs more players.

Edited by Willo (08 Aug 2022 11.50pm)


A little disingenuous on your part Willo, if I may say so, as last seasons's stats suggest it's 1 in 3 when looked at in terms of minutes played. as opposed to games in which they have played some minutes.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Online Flag CR3 09 Aug 22 8.08am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Reliable source on twitter says we are looking at a wide player, good age and re-sale value that also has international experience. Apparently nothing imminent on MF or striker front yet.

We have a few wide players now, unless Pat is thinking about Wilf through the middle on a more permanent basis perhaps

I think Wilf may be finally going. Sarr would be a decent replacement and it does seem plausible that a deal with Chelsea where either Loftus Cheek or Gallagher comes to us and Zaha goes the other way could be being considered.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Aug 22 8.17am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


A little disingenuous on your part Willo, if I may say so, as last seasons's stats suggest it's 1 in 3 when looked at in terms of minutes played. as opposed to games in which they have played some minutes.

One can examine statistics and interpret them in different ways drawing different conclusions.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Online Flag Lanzarote 09 Aug 22 8.26am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I think if Wilf does go i think Hirving Lozano may be our target, my mate is a Napoli fan and says he is good but not outstanding, his last 148 games in Serie A and Eredivisie he has scored 54 goals and has 33 assists.

 


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View midlandspalace's Profile midlandspalace Flag kidderminster 09 Aug 22 8.38am Send a Private Message to midlandspalace Add midlandspalace as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

One can examine statistics and interpret them in different ways drawing different conclusions.

There is a tendency for people to "interpret them" in ways that reinforce their existing bias. Perhaps you could explain the methodology you used to reach your " 1 in 5" conclusion, so we can understand its validity better.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Aug 22 8.50am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by midlandspalace


There is a tendency for people to "interpret them" in ways that reinforce their existing bias. Perhaps you could explain the methodology you used to reach your " 1 in 5" conclusion, so we can understand its validity better.

With respect I was not confecting statistics to give weight to any "Existing bias".
Looking at the available stats I was made aware that Mateta has scored 6 PL goals in 30 apps, Eduoard has scored 6 goals in 29 PL apps.

 

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View Bullhorn76's Profile Bullhorn76 Flag Darlington 09 Aug 22 8.52am Send a Private Message to Bullhorn76 Add Bullhorn76 as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Reliable source on twitter says we are looking at a wide player, good age and re-sale value that also has international experience. Apparently nothing imminent on MF or striker front yet.

We have a few wide players now, unless Pat is thinking about Wilf through the middle on a more permanent basis perhaps

Carl isnít always reliable at the moment Iíd take what he says with a pinch of salt

 

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View midlandspalace's Profile midlandspalace Flag kidderminster 09 Aug 22 9.11am Send a Private Message to midlandspalace Add midlandspalace as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

With respect I was not confecting statistics to give weight to any "Existing bias".
Looking at the available stats I was made aware that Mateta has scored 6 PL goals in 30 apps, Eduoard has scored 6 goals in 29 PL apps.

I did not suggest you were "confecting statistics", I said you needed to share your methodology. It is clear that Doombear was using minutes played to give the 1 in 3 figure whereas you have now made it clear that you were using appearances to give the 1 in 5 figure. This is why I made the point that sharing methodology is important. Personally I prefer using minutes played, so that we can get a figure of "goals per 90 minutes" as opposed to appearances, where one appearance could be as short as 1 or 2 minutes.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 09 Aug 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Viera makes it clear the squad is not big enough, yet Benteke is let go, and this is no surprise as a move for him has been talked of for weeks. So could it be Palace have a player in the bag, but are just not talking about it. .? Or are we back to the Roy days of making do.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Aug 22 9.27am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by midlandspalace


I did not suggest you were "confecting statistics", I said you needed to share your methodology. It is clear that Doombear was using minutes played to give the 1 in 3 figure whereas you have now made it clear that you were using appearances to give the 1 in 5 figure. This is why I made the point that sharing methodology is important. Personally I prefer using minutes played, so that we can get a figure of "goals per 90 minutes" as opposed to appearances, where one appearance could be as short as 1 or 2 minutes.

I am mindful that the debate under discussion is "Transfers", accordingly veering into a discussion about stats and "Methodology" regarding player statistics is perhaps taking the train off the tracks.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Aug 22 9.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout

Viera makes it clear the squad is not big enough, yet Benteke is let go, and this is no surprise as a move for him has been talked of for weeks. So could it be Palace have a player in the bag, but are just not talking about it. .?

Who was the mystery young Chelsea player that was overheard saying that he was joining Palace on the following day - which was a week ago

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Aug 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Who was the mystery young Chelsea player that was overheard saying that he was joining Palace on the following day - which was a week ago

Is it Sarge?, is it the janitor? sorry I just had a flashback to Hong Kong Phooey

 


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