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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 23 Jul 22 12.46pm Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Can someone confirm or deny that on our list of retained academy graduates there's a player with this surname. His first name appears to be Adler.

Any relation?
Or is it the same bloke in the article above?

No relation, we signed our academy player from Peterborough, he played one first team game for them

 

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View Palace Passion's Profile Palace Passion Flag Bromley, South London 23 Jul 22 2.07pm Send a Private Message to Palace Passion Add Palace Passion as a friend

Sign this kid up he is phenomenal!!! Must be some perks of having John Textar at the club..

 


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View theorist's Profile theorist 19 Oct 22 10.14pm Send a Private Message to theorist Add theorist as a friend

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In Portuguese, but 'translatable' with little content issues.
Both Universo online and Lance are reputable national media sourcing.


 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 20 Oct 22 6.10am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Edson Arantes do Nascimiento didn't do too bad

 


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View theorist's Profile theorist 20 Oct 22 2.57pm Send a Private Message to theorist Add theorist as a friend

There might be something in the name. Our Adler (2g3a) is looking very promising on the U18s.

Also, as an aside and with a rather signficant element of concern from BF supporters, during this year's midseason transfer window in Brazil, Textor loaned his then top scorer (7g in Brasileiro SerieA) on Botafogo, striker Erison to Estoril (currently one point off Europe) in Portugal. Estoril, owned by Globalon Football Holdings S.L. is Blitzer. Work permit point accretion scheme this? Telegraph now has reported Boehly interest in Portugal as well (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/09/14/chelsea-eye-portuguese-club-takeover-todd-boehly-talks-jorge/).

People are starting to realise that a massive still untapped potential exists in Brazil. 2 years in football and on contract with BF until November 2023 and a 50m release clause, 17yo Kaue has now been elevated onto their first team from the U20s after 7g in 30 for BF's U20s so far this year. He is Brazil's CDM of the future (Brasil U16s and 17s so far)....The next one to keep an eye on.

He will need old world polishing at the PV finishing school as well. To say that the Alvinegro are smitten with PV is a massive understatement as from the members of the board to a denizen of the Botafogo neighbourhood, you shall hear that his style and teachings is the proper footballing way and that any direct tutelage, if properly managed, via loan is a massive win for their player development. Not only is the recognition of PVs capability local, but from far afield as well.

Travel tip: Remember the birds are on Ipanema's beach, but don your '77 kit (formalware, obviously) and head south from Rio proper to BF/Copacabana/Ipanema and you shall eat, drink, and 'play' with true Rio hospitality. You will be stopped numerous times, guaranteed.


Edited by theorist (20 Oct 2022 6.17pm)

 

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View theorist's Profile theorist 22 Oct 22 10.33pm Send a Private Message to theorist Add theorist as a friend

Now Official. 3 year undisclosed year over year escalating salary. Real Madrid chopped at the knees.

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Ostensibly, he could be available for an outbound loan spell at Botafogo's season end which is just prior to our winter window. I have heard/seen that he is rather 'interested' in London. I think Dougie had a positive influence on the lad during negotioations alongside Textor.

Textor's had a busy couple weeks - Tried to buy about a 1/4 of Sporting CP (debt purchase off Sportings creditor banks, convert to shares down the line). Failed due to .....rolling dice
...Portuguese elections (so says John T)
and the Lyon acquisition has hit hiccups at the deadline.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Oct 22 8.03am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Sorry I have missed the point of the last few posts. I appreciate its a lot of work to translate but a hint would be nice.

Are you saying this lad is coming to us in January on loan?

 


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View theorist's Profile theorist 23 Oct 22 2.09pm Send a Private Message to theorist Add theorist as a friend

This is relatively accurate Badger:

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The error in the article is that their really is no contract between Nascimento and BF directly. It is confusing and often glossed over by media reporting. This is Brazil, not Europe. The contract is between MN and his ownership group, which is comprised of Botafogo football club (60%), MN's youth club (10%), and Matheus himself (30%). The ownership group "leases" MN to Botafogo.

Always a speedhump in these sorts of scenarios. Registration and ownership? Doesn't the premier league forbid participation of privately owned players? I would have lots of questions. Let alone, work permit?

But, if the obstacles dealt with, yes he could be here, keeping in mind that Dougie has been involved with these negotiations since the beginning.

Edited by theorist (23 Oct 2022 2.12pm)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Oct 22 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by theorist

This is relatively accurate Badger:

[Link]

The error in the article is that their really is no contract between Nascimento and BF directly. It is confusing and often glossed over by media reporting. This is Brazil, not Europe. The contract is between MN and his ownership group, which is comprised of Botafogo football club (60%), MN's youth club (10%), and Matheus himself (30%). The ownership group "leases" MN to Botafogo.

Always a speedhump in these sorts of scenarios. Registration and ownership? Doesn't the premier league forbid participation of privately owned players? I would have lots of questions. Let alone, work permit?

But, if the obstacles dealt with, yes he could be here, keeping in mind that Dougie has been involved with these negotiations since the beginning.

Edited by theorist (23 Oct 2022 2.12pm)

Thanks, still all just clickbait at the moment.

 


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View Palace Passion's Profile Palace Passion Flag Bromley, South London 03 Nov 22 9.21pm Send a Private Message to Palace Passion Add Palace Passion as a friend

Bit of a coincidence we are playing his club in a friendly in December

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 03 Nov 22 10.22pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Passion

Bit of a coincidence we are playing his club in a friendly in December

Hardly! John Textor is involved in both clubs. It's a bit like when I used to play Subbuteo against myself.

 


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Maybe similar to Watford playing Udinese ?

Originally posted by YT

Hardly! John Textor is involved in both clubs. It's a bit like when I used to play Subbuteo against myself.

 

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