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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 08 Aug 22 8.52pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are only proving my point.

They are for private gain, not public service.

Try walking in their product.

Over 50 billions of public money has disappeared into their coffers since 1989.

You do talk nonsense! Still waiting for you to name those few individuals though.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Aug 22 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Perhaps the 10 million extra people added to the population might be a reason why water is rationed every other year.

Just a glimpse into our future.

Water companies would charge their customers higher prices if they start major work on improving the situation.
The government needs to take action now to avoid permanent water shortages.

Does anyone believe they will?

Improvement works are baked into the charging algorithm. If the water companies and water authorities wish to charge at the top of their licence they have to prove they have successfully invested each year

I worked with Essex and Suffolk Water Company to review its project management capability. It serially failed to spend enough as it wasn’t sufficiently good at managing infrastructure programmes. As a result it lost money because its charge rate was capped.

Perhaps that is also what happened in Atlantis, which eventually lost the favour of the Gods and fell into the sea - presumably why Hrolf is now retired.

This us article claims water use doesn’t increase with population growth

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 22 7.01am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Which few, often foreign/absent owners are lining their pockets? And which taxpayers' money are you talking about?

You probably won't be interested to know that water company shares are highly favoured by pension scheme trustees as low-risk, stable investments. Even pension schemes for the employees of trade unions - the trustees of which tend to have high ESG standards contained in their SIP - hold water company shares.

ESG = Environmental, Social & Governance
SIP = Statement of Investment Principles

I believe Siuthern Water are owned by an Australian based company. Several years ago we had compulsory water meters fitted. It was quite obvious from the way our billed nearly doubled, that there was an issue with the meter. 2 years ago they eventually admitted there was and gave us a refund, but nowhere near how much extra it had cost us.
Apparently they are known to build up debts in companies, like they did with Thames Water. They really are an awful company

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 22 7.05am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I believe Siuthern Water are owned by an Australian based company. Several years ago we had compulsory water meters fitted. It was quite obvious from the way our billed nearly doubled, that there was an issue with the meter. 2 years ago they eventually admitted there was and gave us a refund, but nowhere near how much extra it had cost us

Southern Water are indeed Australian owned.

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 22 7.07am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Southern Water are indeed Australian owned.

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Just added a link to my post above. LeftThames Water with debt which appears to be their MO

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 22 7.12am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Improvement works are baked into the charging algorithm. If the water companies and water authorities wish to charge at the top of their licence they have to prove they have successfully invested each year

I worked with Essex and Suffolk Water Company to review its project management capability. It serially failed to spend enough as it wasn’t sufficiently good at managing infrastructure programmes. As a result it lost money because its charge rate was capped.

Perhaps that is also what happened in Atlantis, which eventually lost the favour of the Gods and fell into the sea - presumably why Hrolf is now retired.

This us article claims water use doesn’t increase with population growth

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But new developments do! Which are allegedly being built due to increase in population No more development allowed in Arun Valley until water shortages are sorted. . Was reading an article about it in local magazine only yesterday

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This is the article from the HDC magazine. No permission for new developments where they increase the demand for drinking water!

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 09 Aug 22 7.24am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It seems other views are available

We don't have any natural water in Lanzarote, so it all comes from desalinated ocean water. It's high in minerals and can be pretty heavy in chlorine. It's normally safe to drink, but doesn't taste great. We all use it to cook with and brush our teeth, but almost everyone here uses bottled water for drinking.

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with all due respect Lanzarote information is a site for tourists and should be renamed Lanzarote rubbish, 70% of residents drink the tap water, i use it for tea and coffee, my Dad who is 87, has drunk the tap water for 12 years and it hasn't affected him at all, Desalination plants are the obvious way forward with the continuing sea level rising and the rivers drying up.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Aug 22 7.37am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Desalination may not taste perfect but it could be used for farmers and industrial purposes etc. thus taking the pressure (no pun intended) off the householder.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Aug 22 7.39am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Desalination may not taste perfect but it could be used for farmers and industrial purposes etc. thus taking the pressure (no pun intended) off the householder.

Totally agree

 

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When I lived in Oman I got in with a group of friends where one of them was the operator of the blitz machine in the lithotripsy ward in the Military hospital ( this machine was so expensive that to justify the purchase they had to agree to make it available to non military personnel as well) - this is the machine that blitz kidney stones caused by a build up of minerals in the water - in Oman practically everyone drinks bottled water ( certainly the Military & expats do) but she was saying that even the bottled water comes in various grades of purity & she could see a direct correlation between the stones in some people that always drink brand x & those that drink brand y ( they had a scientific table which detailed the typical mineral content in each brand of bottled water) & anyone that was unfortunate enough to drink tapoline on a regular basis was considerably more likely to be in more serious trouble with mineral build up -

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

with all due respect Lanzarote information is a site for tourists and should be renamed Lanzarote rubbish, 70% of residents drink the tap water, i use it for tea and coffee, my Dad who is 87, has drunk the tap water for 12 years and it hasn't affected him at all, Desalination plants are the obvious way forward with the continuing sea level rising and the rivers drying up.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Aug 22 9.57am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Desalination may not taste perfect but it could be used for farmers and industrial purposes etc. thus taking the pressure (no pun intended) off the householder.

Yes, or we could get better at transporting and using water we already have which in almost all cases would be cheaper and less bad for the planet. Let me repeat, desalination takes an enormous amount of power. It may be feasible to provide water for areas nearest to the sea, especially if offshore wind is available. There is too much salt in solution for it to be the solution.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Aug 22 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Improvement works are baked into the charging algorithm. If the water companies and water authorities wish to charge at the top of their licence they have to prove they have successfully invested each year

I worked with Essex and Suffolk Water Company to review its project management capability. It serially failed to spend enough as it wasn’t sufficiently good at managing infrastructure programmes. As a result it lost money because its charge rate was capped.

Perhaps that is also what happened in Atlantis, which eventually lost the favour of the Gods and fell into the sea - presumably why Hrolf is now retired.

This us article claims water use doesn’t increase with population growth

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I do hope not. THat would be bonkers.

What might be true is that domestic water usage has declined due to behaviour.

 

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