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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Online Flag England 15 Aug 22 10.43am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I haven't got the time to look it up now, but I'm pretty sure that Premier League clubs have to have academies and that one of the reasons Brentford ditched theirs in favour of an informal u21/reserve team is that they were outside of the Premier League at the time, and so not caught by the rules.

Usually, when something is grandfathered in there's a time limit before compliance is required so I wonder if they'll be able to continue without an academy on a permanent basis.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 15 Aug 22 10.57am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am certainly NOT a reader of the 'Guardian' but I discovered the following link :

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There we go then, that would appear to confirm it: if we want to copy the academy-less model pioneered by Brentford, we will need to get relegated first, then never come back up.

Small prices to pay, I'm sure....

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Aug 22 11.50am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

An interesting side note to underline the point. Two top hospitality seats at Anfield tonight will cost you £3,750-odd. That's the same amount of revenue you'd raise from 1,000 normal seats at £37.50 each.

Edited by sydtheeagle (15 Aug 2022 10.00am)


Back to school for your maths Syd?

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Online Flag England 15 Aug 22 11.53am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Back to school for your maths Syd?

You think I did maths in school? I was bunking off watching Palace that day/week/year :-)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 15 Aug 22 12.24pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The U18s and now under 21s bring so much to the club I wouldn't want to be without them.

I follow them assiduously, they play quality opposition and I can imagine preferring them to the seniors!

 

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 15 Aug 22 12.28pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Well, what Brentford definitely have not done is haemorrhage money in the transfer market with zero return.

For example : Yohan Cabaye £10m - Left on a free.
: Connor Wickham £9m - Left on a free.
: Andros Townsend £13m - Left on a free.
: Christian Benteke £27m - Left on a free (ish)
: Patrick van Aanholt £13m - Left on a free.
: Mamadou Sakho £26m - Left on a free.
: Cheikhou Kouyate £10 - Left on a free.

These incredible losses are simply unsustainable for a club of our size.

Hmm yes....but then how much each year did we get for staying in the premier league becuase we had these players?

 

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View johnny the eagle's Profile johnny the eagle Flag wivenhoe 15 Aug 22 1.06pm Send a Private Message to johnny the eagle Add johnny the eagle as a friend

Not us.

 


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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 15 Aug 22 2.21pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Well, what Brentford definitely have not done is haemorrhage money in the transfer market with zero return.

For example : Yohan Cabaye £10m - Left on a free.
: Connor Wickham £9m - Left on a free.
: Andros Townsend £13m - Left on a free.
: Christian Benteke £27m - Left on a free (ish)
: Patrick van Aanholt £13m - Left on a free.
: Mamadou Sakho £26m - Left on a free.
: Cheikhou Kouyate £10 - Left on a free.

These incredible losses are simply unsustainable for a club of our size.

those players weren't born with selling on in mind - we got value out of Kouyate, Cabaye, PVA and Andros - Ben and Sakho was not such good value, but it's more the wages where the lack of sustainability is - and remember our sell-ons ... Bolasie, AWB?

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 15 Aug 22 3.04pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Hmm yes....but then how much each year did we get for staying in the premier league becuase we had these players?

When you say "did we get"...the vast majority of whatever "we" get is paid out to the players.

 


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View Elwissthebest's Profile Elwissthebest Flag Marlborough 15 Aug 22 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Elwissthebest Add Elwissthebest as a friend

The answer to the original question will be revealed on 30th August.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Aug 22 4.46pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Who’s right Brentford or us?
If the aim is/was to stay in the PL and earn the revenue that comes from it, then our initial policy of signing seasoned pros for that purpose has thus far worked.
That was obviously the first step, Parish is on record saying that the academy is the next step alongside improving the stadium.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 15 Aug 22 6.38pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

The answer to the original question will be revealed on 30th August.

Lol, but not necessarily true in a one-off match. We took 4 points off Man City last season, for example, but even the greatest Palace optimist in the history of Palace optimists would struggle to argue that we've got it right whereas City have got it wrong.

 


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