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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Aug 22 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Some good advice here.

Personally I prep as a hobby and it's always been something my family thought me a bit of a kook for, but in the last few months that dynamic has undergone a subtle change.

I don't see a civilisational breakdown this winter, but none of us really know what's coming and it's going to be tough for most of us.

A relation has an air rifle but for myself I'm well tooled up with legal stuff that I can quickly access if I ever had the need. I also have a shield, which will stop anything but bullets if the need arose....you can get yours here:

[Link]

A generator is the only effective alternative to heating during black outs. The problem is that it's noisy and if you live in a built up area you are literally advertising that you're doing alright when everyone else is suffering....never a good idea.

So I opted for an all power sonar panel generator, should be coming next week....it's never going to heat your home but I can use it to charge devices, torches and the fridge.

[Link]

But for heating I'm as buggered as the next man, get plenty of warm clothing lads.

As for food I have been storing and preparing for years on that front. For someone who is just starting I recommend a portable stove with compatible propane gas bottles and get in as much water, rice, pasta and pot noodles as you can....get wet wipes for hygiene and always have more water than you think you'll need for a couple of weeks.

Oh and honey, sugar and salt never go off.....canned stuff is usually ok for at least a couple of years, after that the nutritional value starts to go down.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2022 2.42pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Aug 22 9.28pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Your heating Boiler probably only needs about 400 watts to run. You can get lower kw kettles, say 1 to 1.5 kw. Try the camping shop. Then buy a 2 kva generator ( 2 kw) Bit of wiring mods through the window or hole through the wall.
Generator needs to stay outside and exhausted away from the house.

Unfortunately I live in a block if flats without a balcony so its not practical. Of course if I could persuade my neighbours to invest in a large generator we have a flat roof.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Aug 22 11.05pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Unfortunately I live in a block if flats without a balcony so its not practical. Of course if I could persuade my neighbours to invest in a large generator we have a flat roof.

Uh, that could be a stumbling block. How high up ?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Aug 22 6.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Uh, that could be a stumbling block. How high up ?

A few floors.

I don't think I can do anything practical about heating but I do have lots of Thermos flasks so if the power cuts are scheduled like the 3 day week was then I can boil water and store it for drinks and washing.

Probably safer than using a camp stove in doors not sure I like that idea.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 27 Aug 22 8.53am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Exactly what I would suggest, best/worst case scenario is you have a few gas bottles you can take camping.

Just today it was announced that domestic UK energy prices are set to increase by 80%, absolutely staggering increase.

When I built my home the best part of 4? years ago now I was dead set on an off grid wood pellet/multi fuel boiler.
It was about 2000 cheaper to buy and install however long term it would have worked out more expensive to run.
Peer pressure, the convenience of gas & the fact I am running a B&B in 60% of my home made me drop the extra on a gas boiler.
Given my proximity to the war in Ukraine & the likelihood the Russians are going to switch off my gas supply this winter I am absolutely kicking myself.

So yeah go and buy some cheapo gas cylinders from your local camping shop, like I say if you dont need to use them you got some to go camping with.

Low wattage kettles designed for Caravans is also a great idea.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Aug 2022 9.00pm)

There are kettles that plug into the 12v 'cigarette lighter' socket in a car. Even one in Argos. Maybe not ideal for Badger, though, a few floors up.

Edited by YT (27 Aug 2022 8.55am)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Aug 22 10.47am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Let's say you purchase a 2000-watt inverter 12 Volt. If you max out the inverter at 2000 watts, you are pulling 2000 watts /12 volts = 166.6 DC amps per hour. If you use a 200-amp 12-volt battery, you would divide the 200-amp battery / 166.6 amps = 1.2 hours of run time.12 Oct 2021.

This is how you can survive with a car battery if the power goes. Not long but should keep your boiler on for about 4 hours looking at max current draw.
Need a 2000w inverter. It will also boil a low wattage kettle and do a few light bulbs intermittently. Alternatively as a poster said get 12volt appliances.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Some good advice here.

Personally I prep as a hobby and it's always been something my family thought me a bit of a kook for, but in the last few months that dynamic has undergone a subtle change.

I don't see a civilisational breakdown this winter, but none of us really know what's coming and it's going to be tough for most of us.

A relation has an air rifle but for myself I'm well tooled up with legal stuff that I can quickly access if I ever had the need. I also have a shield, which will stop anything but bullets if the need arose....you can get yours here:

[Link]

A generator is the only effective alternative to heating during black outs. The problem is that it's noisy and if you live in a built up area you are literally advertising that you're doing alright when everyone else is suffering....never a good idea.

So I opted for an all power sonar panel generator, should be coming next week....it's never going to heat your home but I can use it to charge devices, torches and the fridge.

[Link]

But for heating I'm as buggered as the next man, get plenty of warm clothing lads.

As for food I have been storing and preparing for years on that front. For someone who is just starting I recommend a portable stove with compatible propane gas bottles and get in as much water, rich, pasta and pot noodles as you can....get wet wipes for hygiene and always have more water than you think you'll need for a couple of weeks.

Oh and honey, sugar and salt never go off.....canned stuff is usually ok for at least a couple of years, after that the nutritional value starts to go down.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2022 9.31pm)

Stirling,
regarding the generators, how long does yours hold the charge for once its full?
I've no idea, is this days, weeks , longer?

The link was yank $ but theyre on Amazon for a lot less(same brand)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Aug 22 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

Stirling,
regarding the generators, how long does yours hold the charge for once its full?
I've no idea, is this days, weeks , longer?

The link was yank $ but theyre on Amazon for a lot less(same brand)

There are videos on the all power solar generators and like I say my 700w model is arriving next week so I wouldn't want to steer you wrong on that.

For me, I intend to use it to recharge devices like tablets, phones and portable battery lights, plus the fridge....for a few hours in the evening, not constantly.

Being solar you would be recharging it each day.

Regarding the site, they have occasional offers and I ordered the 700w generator 100 panel model at near half price whereas I haven't seen the Amazon sold model change from 650.

If someone isn't averse to the noise and cost requirements of fuel generators I see that Honda have their Hyundai 2000w model on a offer at the moment....that company having a good reputation for generators.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2022 12.12pm)

 


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As if by co-incidence no sooner had I posted I received delivery of the all powers battery, the 100w panels are arriving separately and will take another week. If anyone shows interest I'll report on how useful or not it is.

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