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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Sep 22 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

So the media start shouting about some decisions this week and there will be a review. No mention of the decision to disallow our goal at City.
Was there any of this when we had 2 poor decisions in one match against Liverpool last season? Oh wait…..

If the are not to get involved in debatable decisions what do they get involved in? Presumably marginal offsides will not be in the remit,hardly worth having it then. Perhaps consistency by Officials would help


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Sep 22 4.18pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Well they can stop var and we will be back to refs and Lino’s with fans moaning about wrong decisions or we can have var and moan about the officials interpretation. Not sure what is best but nothing; even video replays is full proof.

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 05 Sep 22 12.17am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Was happy to hear that one referee decided that he should not accept one way VAR - that is, he refused to be bullied into agreeing that as his decision was questioned it was wrong.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 05 Sep 22 10.56am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Personally I'm in favour of VAR, but I think it might help if people knew at the time what they were basing their decision on. I also think if the decision isn't instantly clear from watching the replay then they should go with the on-field decision. When they watch things back 20 times it gets ridiculous as it's clearly not an obvious error.

At our game VAR was quick to rule the goal out as Willock clearly smashes into Guaita with what appears to be minimal contact from Mitchell. The referee gave numerous free-kicks to Fraser and Almiron when there was little or no contact and failed to book Almiron when he dived at the end of the first half. He gave little to nothing to Wilf, including when Trippier chopped him down with a knee-high tackle. I think the ref was intimidated by the atmosphere and VAR helped him reach the correct decision.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 22 11.20am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So the media start shouting about some decisions this week and there will be a review. No mention of the decision to disallow our goal at City.
Was there any of this when we had 2 poor decisions in one match against Liverpool last season? Oh wait…..

If the are not to get involved in debatable decisions what do they get involved in? Presumably marginal offsides will not be in the remit,hardly worth having it then. Perhaps consistency by Officials would help


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One thinks the Saudis have slipped in a few quid now - to avoid future 'misinterpretations'.
One can just imagine Staveley chocking on her saveloy as the Newcastle goal was disallowed.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Sep 22 11.30am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Personally I'm in favour of VAR, but I think it might help if people knew at the time what they were basing their decision on. I also think if the decision isn't instantly clear from watching the replay then they should go with the on-field decision. When they watch things back 20 times it gets ridiculous as it's clearly not an obvious error.

At our game VAR was quick to rule the goal out as Willock clearly smashes into Guaita with what appears to be minimal contact from Mitchell. The referee gave numerous free-kicks to Fraser and Almiron when there was little or no contact and failed to book Almiron when he dived at the end of the first half. He gave little to nothing to Wilf, including when Trippier chopped him down with a knee-high tackle. I think the ref was intimidated by the atmosphere and VAR helped him reach the correct decision.

I am not privy to any information which indicates that the referee was "Intimidated", however I will assert that he is inexperienced at PL level, only officiating in 6 games the first of which was last season when he refereed our home game against A.Villa , a match we lost 1-2.

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 05 Sep 22 11.41am Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

VAR was put in place to help reduce the mistakes by referees... the issue is we've got the same referees c*cking it up over at VAR HQ.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 05 Sep 22 11.45am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend


what I can't understand, is that how anyone (outside of newcastle) thinks that's not a foul on Guaita.

I don't think there is enough evidence to suggest Mitchell pushed him. More likely is that Willock overran the run up to such a degree that he took Guaita out. Mitchells involvement could easily have been minimal.

If you rest a hand on another - even with the lightest of touches, once that person moves away from you, your hand will naturally follow him. Too often this is seen as a 'push' - and for once, on Saturday, I thought actually the correct decision Was made, there was no force in mitchells contact with Willock.

Now, I'm normally one of the wierdos that doesn't mind Shearer on MOTD, but his view on this(and all things newcastle) is SO unbelievably biased. GL et al knew he was upset about it - (like any self respecting Geordie was) and let him spout this prejudiced rubbish unfiltered- with no attempt or inclination to counter, or try to suggest what the ref was thinking.

to me, VAR worked on this occasion.


 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 05 Sep 22 11.52am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

For once Gary Lineker gets it right when he says "VAR decisions are sucking the life and joy out of the game".

It could be said that you win some, you lose sum. But, as it's been written before on other threads, the spontaneity has been eliminated.

 


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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 05 Sep 22 11.59am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

I think the review system that cricket uses may be a better option going forward, whereby each team has 3(?) reviews instigated through the captain when they want something reviewed. Thereby it's up to the teams whether something is reviewed, not some muppet locked in a cupboard somewhere.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View dentina's Profile dentina Flag forest hill london 05 Sep 22 12.09pm Send a Private Message to dentina Add dentina as a friend

Quite agree, with most of comments covering this, but add that, it might work better if we could find team of ex footballers who have actually PLAED the game, obs not Lineker or terrible Shearer

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Sep 22 12.10pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

We wouldn't need VAR if the laws on handball and offside were simple and clear to all.

Handball - deliberate arm to ball.

Offside - foot in front of the last man, at the time the ball is kicked.

I watch our other youth teams, the championship, I never miss VAR.

Refs do make mistakes, so have clear simple rules to make their task easier.

We wanted VAR to work but it didn't, and everything we have done to make it work has made it even worse.


 

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