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Indeed - In some far flung countries the death of a ruling monarch can be kept quiet for reasons of national security, to prevent civil uprising, to allow the readying of a suitable successor & enable the two announcements (outgoing / incoming) to appear almost seamless.

Originally posted by Badger11

Exactly. There is nothing sinister about the delay between death and announcement. The Royal family would have to make sure that family and friends are notified first, would you want to hear about your granny's death on the TV?

Then there are matters of state. The government the opposition, allies, and embassies around the world would need to be notified for diplomatic reasons.

All of this would take time.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Sep 2022 7.31am)

 

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I can't stand Macron but he got he right on this.

"To you she is your Queen to the rest of the world she is The Queen."

He's right around the world if somebody mentions The Queen they are normally referring to HM rather than any other Queen. It's like in golf "The Open" rather than The British Open".

I'm not sure this will apply to Charles though.

 


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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 10 Sep 22 10.27am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I can't stand Macron but he got he right on this.

"To you she is your Queen to the rest of the world she is The Queen."

He's right around the world if somebody mentions The Queen they are normally referring to HM rather than any other Queen. It's like in golf "The Open" rather than The British Open".

I'm not sure this will apply to Charles though.

He also broke with tradition and made the speech in English.

 

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View Bearcage's Profile Bearcage Flag Welling 10 Sep 22 10.42am Send a Private Message to Bearcage Add Bearcage as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Its called respect. Something you were sadly not taught by the looks of it.

I don’t think genuine respect is taught, it comes from human decency and thought for others.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Sep 22 10.50am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I can't stand Macron but he got he right on this.

..a truly awful man. And lets not even discuss his private life.

How is democracy still alive with that eejit in the top job in France ? Maybe France should go back to a monarchy ?

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Sep 22 7.04pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Great to see Harry and Megan- travelling in the same car as William and Kate- her majestys peace making skills at play!

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 10 Sep 22 7.57pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

and you base this on what?

The notes of the Royal doctor do not say this.

You simply want to put a spin on the death of a monarch because you hate monarchy.

The announcement could have been made at any time regardless of the actual time of death.

This happens everyday particularly with cancer patients with a modern painkiller.

Stick to West Germany in the 2020's

Edited by HKOwen (10 Sep 2022 6.41am)

If you're interested, here's a link to a documentary claiming that George V was indeed murdered by his doctor.

The arguments are quite compelling, actually.

It's an hour long, by the way.

[Link]

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 10 Sep 22 8.21pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

George V was murdered by his doctor.

Here is a link:-

[Link]

 

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View Bearcage's Profile Bearcage Flag Welling 10 Sep 22 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Bearcage Add Bearcage as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

George V was murdered by his doctor.

Here is a link:-

[Link]

George V was dying, slipping in and out of consciousness and unlikely to survive more than a few hours, His doctor (Dawson) decided to speed this along slightly so euthanised him with a large dose of morphine followed by cocaine. The doctor admitted this in his diary, which was made public 50 years later.


f*** all to do with Queen Elizabeth’s death

Edited by Bearcage (10 Sep 2022 8.55pm)

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 10 Sep 22 9.31pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

George V was dying, slipping in and out of consciousness and unlikely to survive more than a few hours, His doctor (Dawson) decided to speed this along slightly so euthanised him with a large dose of morphine followed by cocaine. The doctor admitted this in his diary, which was made public 50 years later.


f*** all to do with Queen Elizabeth’s death

Edited by Bearcage (10 Sep 2022 8.55pm)

This was fairly common practice in those days.

People seem to forget that diagnostics were limited, and far, far fewer drugs were available for treatment - penicillin for example was only discovered in 1928 and not available for general use until after WWII. Cancer was known of but not much about it, even bronchial pneumonia was frequently terminal.

Where death was inevitable (and usually to be long drawn out and painful) it was not uncommon for doctors to administer a large enough dose of pain killers to ensure that the suffering was not prolonged, and death was painless and dignified.

I make no comment on the rights or wrongs of this.

 


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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 10 Sep 22 10.13pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

George V was dying, slipping in and out of consciousness and unlikely to survive more than a few hours, His doctor (Dawson) decided to speed this along slightly so euthanised him with a large dose of morphine followed by cocaine. The doctor admitted this in his diary, which was made public 50 years later.


f*** all to do with Queen Elizabeth’s death

Edited by Bearcage (10 Sep 2022 8.55pm)

That's the official version. Dawson would appear to have had other motives for what he did.

It is also questionable whether the King's condition at the time was as serious as made out- who was it that was solely responsible for reporting his state of health? Yep, you guessed it...

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Sep 22 10.47pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

George V was murdered by his doctor.

Here is a link:-

[Link]

Yawn, give it a rest

 


When the veneer of civility cracks and the abuse starts....sit back, smile and enjoy a point at Anfield

He reaching for the pocket....and it's a long overdue yellow

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